In this single thread, we see the tower of babble humanity truly is,some opinions need another look.
I understand culture and religion are involved, my post said that.
And yes we can indeed stand back and let them starve, but should we.
It is all very well to put figures up saying there is plenty of room for us all, but it ignores truth.
It ignores Education, possibility's, ability's for so many of these victims.
Hasbeen, do you truly think like that.
If we rely on evolution, the survival of the fittest, we condemn our selves, at some time in the future.
While we sit and watch mass deaths survivors,the strong, will remember we sat with our meat and three veg's and watched.
And if we are not in charge of change such as my view of a real UN it will happen and as a dictatorship.
No human should not be shaken by the death of another.
Hasbeen, hear me mate,why did you post that insult in a thread that has nothing to do with her about Julie Gillard, tell me it was not a troll like low blow.
One day this fine forum must rule on why the difference, why can you and others so obviously needlessly insult but others get chipped for it.
You mate did not need to get that in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDAxCcXdZ0 Yes belly, a bad case of the indeed.

Enjoy

LEAP

Watched the link QL thanks.
Tell me I am wrong but I see the need for humanity to be as one, at least in some matters.
And yes I want others to tell me, not just my views.
This thread is not about Abbott/Gillard Australia.
If a massive earth quake was about to kill ten percent of our population would we want others help.
Can the other half of the world die of starvation and not effect us.
Population control, is it needed.
If the answer is yes do we leave every country, say any African one, to do it.
Some time some day we will confront the need for a set of earth preserving laws rules we all live by.
Or in time die from our own neglect, of those others.

I have said it before & I'll say it again.
Let nature take it's course. Bob Guildoff saved them once before. Now there's twice as many. Things didn't get any better for these people. In fact it got worse for the help. Now we have twice the Terrorists & a new type, the Ship highjacker. The very people we saved from starvation back then.
If the West saves these people now, what will the West be faced with in 20 years time? As thanks for our efforts.
The Islamists have seen what Spring can bring. Do you think they will ever let these people get educated?

Belly,
While we must provide food aid for the immediate situation, is a given.

I think we must consider the longer term view and work toward reducing the birthrates in the countries most at risk of famine.

I certainly have no faith that the UN is the body to do this and oppose any additional powers for the UN. In fact I would not mind if Aus pulled out of the UN all together, as i have no faith in their ability to do anything. They have failed in Africian countries before and nothing was done in Zimbarbwi, which was highly productive previously. There was massive slaughter of the Tuttsies or others while the UN did nothing. Somarlia is a failed state and the UN should have taken over. Slaughter in the Sudan, and the UN is involved in bombing Libya to force a change of government, that could be worse than the present.

The record for the UN is very poor and likeminded countries should bypass it to bring birthrate down in some countries. If the Un could do anything, it should put presure on religions to change their policies on birth control.

Belly,
If our present government really wants to lead the world in something then, tell them to forget the Carbon tax and seek out other countries that are willing to reduce their financial committment to the UN and put the funds toward reducing the birthrates in the worst countries.

It would be far better value for money and doing something practical and beneficial for humanity and the world.