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World Starvation /Refugees and the UN.

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Can we do anything,really truly anything to avoid these problems.
With out a move toward birth control world wide the answer is no positively and firmly no never.
So what do we do?
IF we reformed the charter of the United Nations, not made it one world government, but a tool for all the worlds governments could it work.
I would remove the power of veto, well have at least 40% for veto before it took place.
Craft, get approval for,world basic laws controlling such as birth control for every country.
Food production , maybe give some country's exclusive rights to preserve work and hence keep people at home.
Why do we humans let whole nations live still in the dark ages, we do you know.
Tribal chiefs became warlords or kings and queens, then dictators whole country's North Korea.
A true United Nations could set free these millions in many country's.
Put as America did in Japan governments in place till they grew.
Or do we continue to breed children to die mid life of starvation?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 4:17:51 PM
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*Can we do anything,really truly anything to avoid these problems.*

Yes we could, Belly. Australia spends 4 billion$ a year and rising
on third world aid. None of it goes to family planning in the
third world. All sorts of deals were done between the Libs
and Harradine (a catholic), when Howard needed his vote to sell
Telstra.

Labor could be brave and start to fund family planning in the
third world as part of foreign aid.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 9:09:12 PM
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All the countries involved are perfectly capable of growing enough food for their population.

Corruption and kleptocrasy have left nothing to support the people with the result that food production in these countries has shrivelled.

Only regime change can have long term success.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 4:40:56 AM
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Yabby/Shadow Minister I want t go much further.
We all must confront the truth.
World population growth must stop.
And in my view we will see more deaths from starvation than we ,even I,can imagine with out change.
Refugees are linked to food shortages .
First how would we change say North Korea? we know surely these people, whole generations of them are brain washed?
May not,from the end of the Korean war, have any idea one family has no right to own a whole country.
Somalia, those dieing this morning there have no PC , no radio television, their whole education tells them every thing is the will of their God.
We unless blind can not measure their ability's to grow food against ours.
Look at the Arab spring, it in part is driven by the people seeing via communications a better way.
I propose, an end to Bureaucracy wasting food aid, or 40 cents in every dollar being stolen
That a UN supported by EVERY country's army's, distribute all aid.
Remove all government by dictators and those that threaten the life and liberty's of some of their own people.
That some work, manufacturing of some products, be isolated to those country's most in need of work and lifestyle aid.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 5:35:49 AM
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I know, some will say its a Socialist attempt to have one world government, or a right wing one.
It in my view is saying we can do better we must do better.
We are failing right now, we put millions of dollars into this and every ten years have more mouths to feed more deaths, more filthy rich thieves.
I reject totally the view it is their own fault, right now in Somalia criminal war lords mad as hatter religion driven murderers.
International pirates, make victims of the whole population.
A UN police force court system prisons, food aid distribution system vs endless deaths robbers piracy terrorist breeding.
Give me an answer?
Birth control first, China has a system, it will lead to big trouble.
India and China, other country's too kill girl children, most want sons.
One day wars will Be fought for brides for those country's.
But two child births per couple by world law would see, with natural deaths of some , stability to our numbers.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 5:47:50 AM
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Belly,

Population is only one facet of the problem. For example in 1960 India's population was 400m and there was mass starvation. Today there are 1.2b living with far less food problems.

In the horn of Africa, they are producing less food now than in 1970.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 6:13:48 AM
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