So true Banjo. I don't see how anyone, other than a greenie could think otherwise.

Do I really think like that Belly, anyone who doesn't is a dreamer or an idiot.

To add to Banjo's list, if the UN were still in charge of Bosnia, it would still be a war zone. In two & a half years all they did was get people killed.

It was only when the US picked up the tab, & with the UK, & led NATO in there that anything happened. Any cent given to the UN will be wasted in some rip off. It really time we got the bunch of leaches off the collective backs of the developed world, & let it sink into the stink of it's own making.

Banjo and Hasbeen

Dont expect anything from the soon-to-be-ejected Gilliard Government of cumulative failure

Julia is hanging on to power for the benefit of her own ego

She will impose a Carbon tax and thereby achieve equality....

But in this case, the only thing about her equality is people of Australia will have less and less....

That is why Joe Hockey was right and why the Liberals will rescind the Carbon Tax and sack all those useless civil servants of the Climate Commission...

and the Greens will be history... so to Windsor and the other turncoat independents. Of course, the Labor party will be decimated.... back to less than in the glorious days of Menzies



and the real world will deal with the problems of Africa....

Of course, for the sake of Africa they should probably recolonise it...

as an example, in Southern Rhodesia, Africans had no vote but they did bot starve

Under Mugabe they still don't get a fair vote.... and they do starve - actually, they are starved as a matter of Mugabe Government Policy....

Col and hasbeen,
I do not care which mob here proposes a coalition with other countries to reduce birthrates in those countries that are susseptable to famine, but I wish one of them would.

It would be far better than giving money in overseas aid and throwing money at the UN which just chews up billions, for no or little value.

I also think it would do more for humanity and the enviroment of the world than any carbon tax.

As I have said before, if Iran can reduce their birthrate from 6.5 to 2 per woman, then other countries could reduce theirs, and the whole world gains. I don't like to see pictures of starving kids either.

hasbeen yep, I agree totally.....

Just a quick point... India and China in ascendancy...

why?

simple

They are not strapping their national economies to an environmental guilt trip, like this looney labor government and most of the governments of Europe

Bring on the next general election

then those who want to help Africa can do so from the money saved by not being forced to pay higher prices due to the passing on of carbon taxes.

GY hows it going? not angry Graham, not even upset.
Posters may not believe this but I am more interested in open and honest discussion of any subject than point scoring.
And believe me I am both in control and quite capable of launching in to verbal warfare.
What has the subject got to do with the Australian Labor Party government.
I promise this, I am making extreme efforts, not to become as provocative, as needling, as NASTY with forethought, .
It serves no one to turn OLO in to a site that can not talk about issues without CHILDLIKE slings and arrows.
Yet I, always look for the better side in any one, we every one of us, must CONFRONT this, some are not capable of better.
Hasbeen you are, glimpses of understanding come , rarely but shining in your efforts.
Now was it jay of Melbourne?
I am known for my lack of interest in power we wrongly give to any religion, and distrust of Muslim separatism.
Have you watched a human die?
I have far too often, it never entered my head to think it was for the best.
Have you been truly hungry? really painfully hungry,I have.
We can do better while others are considering finding new ways to insult the ALP me, all who follow, I will put my time in to looking for answers
continued.

So many will think me heartless, yet I am only saying it as it is, many, far too many, maybe most Australians will say let them die.
Unless they walked in to those tents, even the worst of my PROVOCATEURS would have a child in their arms and wet cheeks in a minute.
Most Australians, include me, doubt any groups ability to not see donations pilfered wasted miss used.
In fact we do not trust Authority from our local council, to government Utility's, and the Public service.
At times we get it wrong dedication and great work comes too from all these groups.
But Australian owned firms face court changed with? becoming part of the Asian/African economy,in the worst but back bone, bribery corruptions, that is life.
These problems are real, the death and suffering too.
We have as a subject re starting the UN making it work to set world wide rules.
If we fail the death may not be confined to Africa/Asia an illness breed in such death camps can kill us all.
If we, humanity as a whole, not confront problems as bad as this? we face a one world dictator ship one day as our devisions stopped us fixing it.
I doubt, given our efforts just here, self interest will in my life time let us put humanity's interests first.