SM
"The local abattoirs prefer different breeds of cattle to those bred for live export, and so as mentioned above, the prices obtained are so low that often it costs more to transport them."

Not so SM and if you take off your liberal party hat for a moment you might see the opportunities here for onshore processing instead of choosing to find the negative in all ALP policies.

Shipping processed halal meat to meet the demands of an overseas market is also providing new job opportunities and you can transport more boxed meat on a ship than live animals - a win-win.

Don't be another sheep falling for the spin from the meat and livestock people on this issue.

*falling for the spin from the meat and livestock people on this issue.*

Sheesh, quite correct Pelican. What would the meat and livestock
people know about meat and livestock. Some of our suburban housewives
have all the answers. Best they rush out with their savings and
go and build those plants as soon as possible. If they lose the
lot, well perhaps they did not know best after all.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201107/s3261745.htm

This is why I am so passionate about this issue, Gertrude. I've had
to get the gun out and shoot livestock, dig holes, when there was
nowhere for them to go. Understanding stocking rates and feed
planning are critical in livestock farming.

Nico Bota now has to shoot 3000 cattle, before disaster hits the
rest of the herd. What does our RSPCA say? Ah the industry fund
will save him. Yeah, 25'000$, that will buy the bullets. Ludwig
says "Centrelink". These guys have not the foggiest idea of
what the actual problem is.

This has been my point all along. The live trade plays an absolutaly
critical role in moving large numbers of livestock swiftly, when
we have droughts. Without them we frankly would be stuffed. Nobody
is going to invest in meat plants which stand around empty and staffed, in case droughts hit.

Since rainfall varies, livestock turnoff varies accordingly. Removing
the live trade option from the equation would create all sorts of
environmental and animal welfare disasters, which you people simply
do not understand.

*This is why I am so passionate about this issue, Gertrude.*
:) Dearest Yabby, your so predictable, but it looks like Gertude is ahead of you on the bush telegraph. Pls allow me to enlighten u
( as if u didnt already know) the *real reason & plans from up yonder.
I will address the answer to droughts & flood loss after.

THE PLAN=

Those perceptions are built from what they read, hear and see in the media. Perceptions can easily be turned into belief and the truth by those practiced in the media. The easiest way to discredit Lyn White and the RSPCA is to start a whisper about fraud, pre-meditation and so on... and that is what has happened. The farmers, the producers, your future market, are persuaded by the information they are receiving, that something smells.

It is the strike back from the vested interests in the live trade. Discredit your opposition. When you have time get a DVD called 'Wag the Dog'.

Shooting cattle & footage of cattle dieing of thirst and starvation is the plan. Blame RSPCA , AA & turn the public against them .

Btw Do not put a sub into the inquiry supporting them & they will talk after the inquiry.

Do not be seen supporting RSPCA AA is best advise. Dont do it.

& So Yabby, do you really think the PLAN will work? Dont you think the public are smart enough to know they could have/ should have started trucking them/ shipping them out a month ago.

My personal feelings

1 I would be happy to assist shooting them humanly & very pleased at least those ones dies quickly on AU soil. First good night sleep I would have had in ages. Quick death Thankyou Lyn.

No Gertrude, the problem is that you don't understand the basic
logistics of livestock farming and what happens when lots of growers
have to act at the same time.

Do you think we got the guns out and shot sheep on masse for fun
or for tv? We did it as no meatworks could handle them and they
had to go. They were ewes so at that time could not go on a boat.

You have never had to shoot your own livestock, you'll never
understand.

Bota is a wise man, he's acting now, not when the place is bare
and the animals are dying. I've seen it before, some can't bring
themselves to do it and the suffering is something that you city slickers
just cannot get your city minds around.

You mean well, that is about all. Lots of feeling and no knowledge
leads to inevitable disaster. We've seen by the comments of Ludwig
and the RSPCA, they they know nothing about this topic and
the RSPCA should really stick to pets, they know nothing about
the livestock industry or how it functions.

WA, due to its isolation, has these problems to a far greater
degree then the East. But then you clearly know even less about
WA.

Yabby,
*Ludwig says "Centrelink". These guys have not the foggiest idea of
what the actual problem is.*

Dear Yabby,
Ca you pls explain what is the difference between them going on center link and the thousands and thousands of meat workers Australia wide that were forced to go on centrelink?
Oh, accept they got an extra 30 mill more than the meat workers.

* Absolutely critical role in moving large numbers of livestock swiftly, when we have droughts.*
We really need date Oz wide to pin point areas most often effected because it would appear some farms are just not sustainable. Then the Government have to bail them out. Not the best way to spend public $s.

*Nobody is going to invest in meat plants which stand around empty and staffed, in case droughts hit.*
Just tonight one email & one call-- u were saying--

*Since rainfall varies, livestock turnoff varies accordingly. Removing
the live trade option from the equation would create all sorts of
environmental and animal welfare disasters, which you people simply
do not understand.*

Oh I understand the problem Yabby if you cant get them out quickly in known drought and flood areas its a disaster. It leads to long deaths of animals & a huge cost to tax payers over & over * & over again. Yes I think I have got that. The answer is obvious to all but you dear Yabbs.

Now I will go back to chewing my cud & I hope those farmers are now feeling what are abattoir workers have felt for years & years.

But listen to this tons of farmers support Lyn White RSPCA & AA.

There is a surprising amount of people in the farming industry who support them 200% FACT