Labor was never going to ban live exports completely mores the pity - it was a knee jerk reaction to the 4Corners Program. No real backbone there but none expected.

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Australia donates huge amounts of aid to Indonesia every year much of it goes missing, I am sure some creative folk could easily solve the problem of refrigeration.

Finding solutions is about being creative. You keep talking about the breed of cattle - what difference is the breed whether it is shipped live or frozen. Your point is not clear.

Nothing like the threat of pictures of 3000 dead cattle, flashed up on all our TV screens to make these stupid poll driven twits in Canberra see some sense.

3000 dead cattle lying uselessly in a paddock, after being shot by their desperate owner would have highlighted just how incompetent these fools are.

It really is getting hard to believe that anyone can get so much wrong, so completely, so often.

*No real backbone there but none expected.*

Its not about backbone Pelican, but about facts and understanding
the industry, which you clearly do not.

As a consumer you claim to want good meat, yet now you want to
try and force meatworks to produce crap meat, which they will
have trouble selling. The cattle going to Indonesia are too small
to slaughter at 350kg. They need feedlotting. Take cattle for
slaughter straight off the stations, you will land up with skin,
bones and gristle. The North does not have the feed for feedlots,
trucking it up north is simply too expensive.

Trucking cattle south does not make sense either. Bos Indicus don't
like our cold weather. Freight kills the thing. Premium markets
don't want Bos Indicus either, they want British breeds or Waygu
infused.

AACo have in fact just advertised some key positions for an abattoir
which they are building in Darwin. But they have their own cattle
and land to ensure the feedlotting and marketing etc. Their plan
is a market based decision as it should be.

What you want to do is simply enforce city based ideology onto
country folk, without a second thought about the consequences,
economic or animal welfare wise. Disaster follows.

#Nothing like the threat of pictures of 3000 dead cattle#
Well that is now are criminal investigation - so i wont comment - other than to say imop charges will be laid.
This is not the end- its the beginning of the end.

http://amieu.net/files/pdf/Fact%20Sheet%20-%20MLA%20and%20LiveCorp%20knew%20in%20May%202010%20about%20the%20practices%20occurring%20in%20Indonesian%20abattoirs.pdf
Fact Sheet: Were the MLA and LiveCorp Aware of the Horrific Slaughtering Practices in Indonesia Prior to June 2011?
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Issue 5 – Excessive cuts attempting to sever carotid artery
The Four Corners program aired footage of Slaughterers using up to 33 cuts to slaughter an animal. Professor Caple also indicated during an interview aired on the program that the panel had observed a similar practice of a Slaughterer attempting up to 18 cuts to slaughter an animal. This is confirmed by the report at page 32:

“In particular, at one abattoir in West Java, the incision was made with a single cut to the neck, whereas at an abattoir in Sumatra the neck was struck with a knife using a hard impact to sever the skin above the larynx and then up to 18 cuts were made to sever the neck and both arteries.”

Issue 6 – False Aneurysm Formation
False aneurysm formation is a significant animal welfare issue that really only a skilled, professional eye can pick up. The bluntest way it can be described is that it results in a slower painful death for the animal. Viewers of the graphic images on Four Corners could not be expected to be aware of it. The report on page 32 indicates:
“Although on all occasions both carotid arteries were completely cut, bleeding was significantly impaired in 10% of cattle due to false aneurysm formation in both carotid arteries, possibly resulting in extended consciousness. The SOP does not currently include guidelines for the management of occluded arteries and false aneurysm and slaughtermen were not observed to appreciate this as being a potential animal welfare issue.”
Issue 7 – Throwing buckets of water at immobilized animal

Issue 8 – Traditional slaughter
Of the most graphic and horrific images shown on Four Corners, the “traditional slaughter” method was amongst the worst. This is the process where Australian cattle were subjected to a 20 to 30 minute
process of “roping down” without the use of a restraining box. Cruel methods to force the animal to recumbency are often used.
The report at page 30 states:
“Restraining boxes were observed to be used when available with traditional slaughter observed in one location.”
And at page 33:

And at page 33:
“The slaughter of Australian cattle in Indonesia was assessed against the OIE Code. A range of facilities and slaughter methods were observed including traditional slaughter, assisted traditional slaughter incorporating restraining boxes and slaughter using westernised abattoir facilities.”
The report makes clear that of the 29 animals viewed being slaughtered, at least 3 were done by traditional slaughter.
Conclusion
It is to be steadfastly borne in mind that the report on animal welfare issues in the slaughtering process only dealt with a small and random sample of 29 animals slaughtered. Yet all of the practices aired on Four Corners were quite apparent in this very small and random sample.
There is irrefutably evidence that as at May 2010, the MLA and LiveCorp were put clearly on notice as to the animal welfare issues that were demonstrated graphically by the Four Corners program “A Bloody Business”.
Moreover, the evidence was forwarded to DAFF. A significant issue is what action they took, if any, and whether the Minister was briefed on the situation.

Shame on you belly yabby & this is going on world wide.

After the inquiry you will see more footage- a lot more

It will hit the public even harder than Indonesia.

And far more than just one country

*The cattle going to Indonesia are too small*
to slaughter at 350kg. They need feedlotting

Yabby,

You have just yet again enforced the industry as it stands is totally unsustainable . So now your saying Australia cant run this bloody barbaric industry without Indonesia feed lots. Well in 2014 if its not banned before they are NOT taking anymore. Or what if there were no boats -- they all left for boat heaven-- now there is a thought.

Before the greedy industry over farmed this country flourished with dozens of plants in areas of good feed and fat stock.

* Bos Indicus don't*
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Yeh thats why you dont mind them being hosed for 30 minutes in feezing water while having their eyes pulled out tired and alive.

I KNOW your not into cattle- so your just a sadistic. chop heads off puppies & thinks nothing of it.

*What you want to do is simply enforce city based ideolog*

You honestly think the tax payers have no say in this. You think we should keep paying taxes to set elders and the likes up in their own private business OUT of Australia- such arrogance!

The city folk WILL have there say & the vetted interests of the low lifes involved will NOT be heard over the demands of the public.

As far as people being given welfare goes belly thats a lot more than many meat workers got years ago as plants closed due to live exports.

AMIEU havent even started yet- at least there are some real alp blokes left i guess.

What was that you said I am TRUE loyal ALP but I hate our Prime Minister.

But thanks You got to laugh at posts like that i guess

Makes it all worth while really:)