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Work to welfare - Labor's live cattle policy.

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http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national/watch/25867539/

FROM ABC
Animal welfare concerns

The lift on the ban comes one day before Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd had been due in Jakarta to discuss how to restart the controversial trade.

The Opposition has welcomed the lifting of the ban, but the Greens are outraged by the decision.

Greens Senator Rachel Siewert says there is no guarantee animals will be stunned before they are killed.

"I'm deeply concerned that the Minister for Agriculture's made a serious mistake here," she said.

"We do not believe Indonesia is ready to reopen the trade. The Government cannot guarantee animal welfare standards.

"The Minister's bowed to pressure, he's not looking after the best interests of Australian livestock."

The RSPCA's Lisa Chalk agrees the new conditions are not strict enough.

"The Government may think the conditions are in place but the conditions certainly don't mean animals in Indonesia won't meet a cruel death because they haven't mandated stunning," she said.

"If animals are still going to have their throats cut while they're conscious it's a totally unacceptable animal welfare outcome and we're very disappointed."

The polls line apparently crashed under the pressure of public calling.



The carbon tax on Sunday will not give Ludwig any relief. Nothing but a total ban is demanded now because once again the Government has proved it cant be trusted.

No cattle have left yet. Mr Rudd who refused to disclose to the public at the AWB inquiry ( and it was his job) the money to evidence that while the AWB was knowingly diverting millions to Saddam Hussein�s regime under Iraq�s Oil-for-food scheme, it was also secretly raising cash from interests in the live Animal export trade.

This is what Kevin Rudd HID from the public Even as Shadow Minister??

The names faces of the live exports & family's etc will be featured in adds. Time to STEP up for Animals.



Its a dirty business& the more you look the more unspeakable acts of cruelty and dishonesty you find.

SHAME
Posted by Kerryanne, Thursday, 7 July 2011 8:48:43 PM
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*A ban on live exports could be done with a gradual phasing out as proposed by Xenophon and Wilkie.*

Ah our sweet Pelican. When it comes to workers she wants a fair
deal for them, with every bell and whistle. But when it comes
to farmers wanting a fair deal, like the ability to trade, to
have competition in the marketplace, she thinks they should
be subsidising local jobs instead.

Never mind many farmers being screwed by a few large processors.
Never mind shooting livestock in times of drought.

Our urban housewife is completely out of touch with the real
world of agriculture.

Pelican wins the gold star of the week for urban naivety
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 7 July 2011 8:49:54 PM
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Yabby,

Now I wouldnt go upsetting the urban housewife's again if I were you.

Look what happened last time:)It will be at least 3 to 4 weeks before the first cattle will do to Elders plants & much loner for others.

At this rate its going to take two years to catch up - just in time for the three years closure- oh thats if its not banned before- & or if more footage doesn't appear.
Australian public wont care either which country its from they will just want all live exports banned.

You only have to open your eyes to see 220 countries if millions wanting the barbaric trade banned.

Thats the beauty of the world royal urban housewife's brigade.
Posted by Kerryanne, Friday, 8 July 2011 1:02:42 AM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/indonesian-man-ruined-by-cattle-scandal/story-fn3dxity-1226090313196
Yabby you and I may be rough around the edges, not PC.
I think we both want an end to the dreadful way this was done.
Accountability from MLA, heads should roll.
Forget the experts,they produce failure for a living.
Given the chance to look back on our posts we did not stray from the end results.
What do you do, $6 bribe, highlighting not FIXING a problem has cost our country millions, needlessly.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 July 2011 3:53:43 AM
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Kerryanne,

While you are gloating, the support for the greens and labor in the northern territories is withering. Juliar's support is already at record lows, the last thing she needs is to make more enemies.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 8 July 2011 1:24:24 PM
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Actually Gertrude, you don't have public support for any ban. You
just have a very noisy group of extreme activists, mostly vegans,
who make a great deal of racket. Yesterday some were on the news
running around in bathers, covered in ketchup, clearly hysterical.
Hardly the smartest of creatures it seems.

Yep the public are against animal cruelty, so that has to be fixed,
as it was in Indonesia. But much of the public can also see through
the spin that is going on. No wonder you got bugger all support
at your public demos.

You Gertrude, do not speak for the public. You speak for yourself.

I remind you that 80% of the public still buy battery laid eggs, so
your claim that the public are for ending the live trade, is a furphy.
Frankly most Australians are simply not interested in the topic.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 8 July 2011 1:59:32 PM
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