Dear Mr pro Liberal party poster.

A *partial ban. What a load of political spin. No such thing. We have no say which plants they go to once they leave AU.

You know that but hey whats a "" you think"" a political point says Yabby.

Before we move on hows your girlfriend Amanda going - You know the member of he liberal party that shamed Australia with her direct

Senator Vanstone and her husband, Tony, have shares in Brinkley Piggery Investments, Wasley's Piggery Management, Wasley's Investments, Auspork Ltd and Australian Pork Farms Pty Ltd.

At least our PM did the right thing & I have little doubt she will be returned to office.

Yep Laborer live cattle policy farmers put on welfare by our PM and told to clean up their act in the face of brutal treatment of their animals. As many plan purposely starve animals & allow them to die of thirst & hunger or shoot them to blame AA & RSPCA it will of course back fire. I was saying before i was so rudely interrupted they can sit there chewing their cuds or truck them out.

Many have decided to let them die of thirst - of shoot them to send a message to the government and public.
I am quite sure it will do just that. It will confirm once and for all the industry is not sustainable

Actually Gerturde, you continue to show extremely poor judgement,
but that is not new. As a matter of fact, I have never complained
about a post, apart from those who try and post commercial
advertisements.

Cattle will die of hunger and thirst, as pastoralists won't have
the money to finance musters. The local market does not pay enough.

The closing of the overseas supply chain has already been well
documented. Exporters will be responsible for the animals which
they export and if those animals go elsewhere, they will lose their
export licenses. Every meatworks will have an animal welfare officer
stationed in Indonesia. Thirty are being trained right now.

AAco are indeed building a cattle export works in Darwin, as the
cost of freighting cattle south makes the industry unviable, for
animals which are too heavy etc.

The Indonesian supply chain is an amazingly efficient one. We have
the land to run breeders, they have the land to run feedlots and
operate year round. What really should happen is for more modern
meatworks to be built in Indonesia, so that cattle can be fattened
and slaughtered there and the meat exported elsewhere in Asia. They
can do it far more efficiently and at lower cost then we can.

That may well yet happen.

At the end of the day, sound economics has to rule, not the world
according to the animal liberation movement.

Kerryanne,

As you and labor obviously care very little for the farmers that are going to suffer, or the animals that will take the place of the Australian cattle, it is far easier to punish the innocent than try and fix the problem.

What is clear is that any political capital with Indonesia has been thrown away, and that most of the leverage has gone too. The unsupported bile you spew cannot make up for the incompetence of the Labor decision.

I see you got the boot as will Labor in a couple of years.

Look I note this whole forum is anti ALP- not just this thread.
If my comments are going to be deleted because I point out a few home truths about Abbott then I wont waist my time.
Yabbyshadow You stay here trying to earn political points for the libs.


Your here to -- for the libs

They have the worst track record of Animal Welfare In Australia.

Had they acted when live exports had been reported before we wouldnt have this trouble now.

I have never met such a nasty group of people in my life.

We have people attacking me personally especially on the other thread- yet they remain- ok

My crime is according to Yabby that we formed a group of Australian Muslim leaders to assist us to bring in investors to help farmers and improve animal welfare.

My other crime is from the animal lovers that we formed a group of people & we worked hard unpaid to put an alternative at least on the table.

Thats my crime- our crime- because we care about Australia and Animal Welfare.

Interesting to note that applies to RSPCA National too- They wanted help to oppose ritual slaughter- or did they.? We gave them that support. Nope not interested. Why does RSPCA National I ask again not want to work with the only Animal Welfare Muslim Association in Australia?

As the farmers ask what is really going on with these people

Bugged if we know stuffed if we know!

I might open a thread before i leave about RSPCA National because I think farmers and public need the whole truth and nothing but!
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Kerryanne,

I saw the post that was deleted, and it contained abusive language again several posters. However strongly you feel about your cause, this is not acceptable behaviour. Crying "victim" like a petulant child convinces no one.

While your opinion is very important to you, it carries little weight with others. If you wish to have any chance of changing others' opinions, then provide facts or at least reasoned argument. So far I have seen nothing.

Shadow Minister,
I still maintain my post was taken off because of my comments on the liberal party and their appalling past record on animal welfare.
I still claim SM & Yabby are the same person. I still suspect Yabbys motivations are the drum up support for the libs & run anti ALP policy.
I still feel that is Yabbys motivation with a possible interests in investments in shipping & because he thinks being a member of mla they will like him.
I offered far more than you have - i so much as alternatives to live exports.
The fact that Yabby thinks I should buy the abattoirs myself only goes to show his arrogance imop. Everybody should want more value adding & a better deal for the animals too.
My biggest criticism however must go to Heather CEO RSPCA, Jenny Hodges Hugh Wirth x RSPCA President now WSPA and Gleynse of Animals Australia.
The very best thing that could happen for the animals is if the all resigned and put in some informed but Animal Welfare concerned *men with at least a background of farming & industry- with a goal to support pre stunning & create more free range farms& slaughter as close to origin as sensibly possible