Yabby,

reply from your post Tuesday, 28 June 2011 8:35:40 PM the Elders plant and others..

Dear Yabby,
I didn’t want to interrupt the RSPCA Ritual slaughter thread but as its died I will now respond to your posted info on 28th.

#Like it or not MLA is the organization #..-

Reply - I don’t think anybody likes it.

#Nope, cattle can't be shipped within Australia, it would break
quarantine rules.#

Reply-

I have seen cattle sprayed in trucks at tick gates& I am sure u have too. There is no reason they cant be sprayed on board ships& shipped down from NT to NSW and other states 24 hr back to back shifts. Unusual times call for unusual steps. There is 1000 people out of work in one plant alone due to lack of stock. These are extraordinarily urgent circumstances and requires thinking outside the box. Something the Government are not good at. I think the PM is surrounded by bad staff& bad Ag Ministers advisers tb

Halal Vegemite?

Does this mean the veggies might be stunned prior to....

Agreed "halal" is just another label it doesn't really change anything. Can anyone detect the difference in flavour of halal or kosher slaughtered animals to those slaughter without religious ritual? Anyone been zapped by a bolt from on high from eating such meat?

What is important is HUMANE methods where animals are treated respectfully and calmly as possible - there is no perfect method, however we do not need to be needlessly cruel either.

http://www.grandin.com/ritual/rec.ritual.slaughter.html

I have made this link before, but it is to a wealth of information regarding religious and human methods of slaughter.

##All this has nothing to do with accreditation,.##

This is where u are so wrong Yabby. From the Indonesians end its ALL its about. In order to produce meat to them it must be Halal;. Otherwise they cant get accreditation they cant sell it. So their imam has had too many chats with Mr Patel but that CAN be fixed. It can be fixed imop by Dr Ali. Just like us they have their own little committees . The Government will NOT crack through this without the help of a respected iman being invited through their committee. & it must be somebody *they respect. I am not going to argue with u about that any longer because you always have to appear you know best. So just leave it. Next week you will read i the media Skinny Tony s going-
& will make it much worse long term for all.!


#The best chance now is for Ludwig to get out of the way and let
somebody else deal with the Indonesians.#
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Yep

#He does not seem to be up to it.#
Nope & wont listen. PMs staff hung up in the ear of the kind people who offered- Great PR PM!

So its in the bag now as far as I am concerned. The best thing they can do is move them out to other plants instead of sitting there talking about dumping cattle all over parliament lawns

60 years + one woman said on TV shes been doing this.

My God who would want to make a $ like that.

If they dump em on the lawn it shows the public even more how little they care about the stock.
The PM has done the right thing & it should have been done years & years ago. Just goes to show it takes a women to have the guts to do the morally Right thing.
Lercourts and some of the others are NOT broke. There are 3 plants up there- buy them and get up operating

Yes Seasonally as it always was!

Have a nice day

morganzola
Ah good old aa always ready to pounce. Firstly i am not posting as Halal Kind Meats. Yes I support GOOD Islamic council but Ikebal Patel & AFIC imop as me ( Kerryanne) have bent over backwards to course disharmony. I think too many Aussie seeing Vegemite as our long time icon would agree with my sentiments. Now u want to talk about AFIC ok & HKM sure. AFIC and Mr Patel to my knowledge always supported stunning.
ALWAYS & wanted live exports banned etc..

After being awarded with Australia day Ambassador Mr Patel started demanding Shari law and ritual slaughter. A great surprise to many.
I heard it was a even bigger surprise to HKM he demanded 2mill from Federal Government & many other media outlets with them as his ""partners"" all unbeknown to them. It would appear to most normal people AFIC & Mr Ikebal Patel have offended most of us including the Attorney General who rushed through there will be no Sharia law in Australia.

The great Muslim Leaders I* posted have nothing to do with AFIC i assure you .

Some people just like to cause trouble and here you are again to prove just that.

Back to my personal thoughts on Ikebal & Vegemite. Just like to signs up through Sydney saying Jesus was a prophet for Allah Yep the Vegemite urkes me.

Ammonite,

I dont think there is any meat in Vegemite but there is cheese and Kraft have gone Halal. We talked about cheese a little earlier so i wont cover that again.

Nor do i mind Halal providing its been stun first- no problems at all.

I was just pointing out given this thread was about ritual slaughter Vegemite is AFIC accredited and AFIC and its president now tell everybody they support ritual slaughter. That WAS my point.

If Vegemite were to be accredited by those supporting stunning I would have no problem. I do personally have a problem however with money going into an Islamic council that supports ritual slaughter Sharia law and thumbs its nose at RSPCA.
Its down right un Australian.
Plenty of Muslims support RSPCA & stunning. AFIC are NOT one of them they ""now"disclose.
So like I said it urkes me each time I buy a jar.
Halal Veggies- In fact all veggies are halal if there is not haram fertilizer.

Yes tar seen the links others use them.

Getting back to veggies yep a chain of Halal veggie food outlets night be a good one for PETA .

Always interested in your comments

Have a nice day Ammonite,

Kerryanne

Apologies for making very poor joke.

You do have a point about the new product containing cheese (it is a product just not on my radar). However as vegemite does not contain ANY meat (as you say) there is no conflict of combining a dairy product with meat, which means labeling as Halal a bit redundant and rendering it meaningless.

Regards