a597

Hello & apologies for delay in my response to you. Interesting comments as always.
a597
What type of stunning are you suggesting ?
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The same stunning used in many plants such as NRM that are RSPCA approved.
If your talking cattle - or sheep differs but electric. Take a look at the links Ammonite posted.
Tell me I dont suppose you recall the Halal accreditation Society name or the imman back then?

##The pig chain was converted to a goat processing chain, in order to get the halal contract.##
I think somehow that was supposed to be kept a secret but i guess it doesn't matter now.:)

##Moving on today, sometimes internet is hard to get, but i will be looking in when possible.##

Good luck with your move and we look forward to hearing again from you a597 & thanks for your interesting comments and background knowledge on slaughter methods.

Ammonite
Sorry I should have realized from you it was a joke-but rushing. You have no idea however how many times people have asked that question with serious enquiers .

##which means labeling as Halal a bit redundant and rendering it meaningless. ##

It may be meaningless in the content you expressed yes
But overall its not to Mr Patel and AFIC. We have RSPCA fighting to ban ritual slaughter and Animals Australia as well as hundreds of other Animal Welfare groups both in Australia and world wide and rightfully so.
To do this costs $ making sure Australia keeps it Animal Welfare standards in regards to abattoirs.

Do you have any idea the amount of $ gained from each jar box of Vegemite- Iam sure you do. So its not meaningless in that concept.

Thats is why i get annoyed every time Vegemite is brought
because in my opinion its going back to a Islamic Council that demands ritual slaughter sharia law all of a sudden & to raise funds towards this campaign from my Vegemite is beyond the pale
btw good to see someone with a sense of humor on here- Doesn't happen to often.

I will see what can be done to save our Vegemite & support RSPCA dow the track

Have a nice day & thanks for the joke even if i did miss it!:)

@ Kerryanne:

I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't posted your vegemite nonsense. Has it ever occurred to you that your singular lack of success with your 'Halal Kind Meats' might have something to do with the antipathy you evidently hold towards Islam?

Perhaps you could turn your exceptional lobbying skills towards a boycott of Kraft? Cheese, vegemite - what's next, Halal peanut butter?
It could be the end of Australia...

Gertrude, there is far more involved in quarantine protocols then
a few ticks. But I won't even bother to explain it all here.
Ask your vet next time that you talk to him.

Beef City has not closed due to a lack of cattle, but due to
a collapse in demand from Japan and a high Australian dollar,
which means they can't make a profit. No profit - no business,
as I keep trying to explain. Australian beef can't compete with
American beef.

Yes a disaster is unfolding in the north and there is a simple
solution. Resume the trade to Indonesia tomorrow. They have
feedlots, works with stun guns and a market, all ready to go.

Meantime it will be 3 months before any of those cattle are
slaughtered. That is plenty of time to install more equipment
where required and put protocals in place to track animals.

Given that AA sat on their footage for months, clearly there
is now no good reason not to get going again, or that disaster
up north will unfold.

morganzola and all
I have been following the thread and it seems to me what Kerry Anne is saying is right.I understand that she supports Halal products to a certain degree - but does not want to support ritual slaughter without stunning which AFIC is supporting.

Having a product labelled Halal is a very good thing,but it becomes a concern when a company allows a product being labelled Halal and then in fact is supporting the ritual slaughter without stunning.

I am horrified that Vegemite and Kraft has gone down this road too.
It seems to me that you support ritual slaughter. Sorry morganzola- I don`t.

Yabby,
I am aware of Japan & my point: plenty closed- get them open.
You know they truck then hundreds of thousands of miles to make up quota for plants. I am trying to say is Wellards hold the key for now & should be pushing to ship them within Australia to be disbursed. This is something Wellards can do & only them . Its in their interests too. They cant just sit swearing at the Government & AA. Time to take their own practical action. Wellards ships are the answer atm because its going to be months before anything happens if not a total ban.

#Resume the trade to Indonesia tomorrow#.
Thats not going to happen & its not up to you or I.

#Meantime it will be 3 months before any of those cattle are
slaughtered.#


As well it requires 25 plants brought up to standard not 6.
Even if we paid we have no control & they can & will do it there way. Cattle go out to many plants & their are 700 of them all over the place.

People come to buy- & they sell them simple.. Nobody is going to stand their saying - oh, these are Aussie cattle & must go to ABCDEF your kidding yourself if you think its that simple.

Given that AA sat on their footage for months, ..
Yabby, Its not the first footage is it? Hasn't this been going on for years? The industry are the ones who sat on their hands for years & the government allowing this brutal treatment to our animals & these blokes are NOT our real Aussie farmers imop.
No room for such people in Australia to destroy our National reputation for all of the Australian public.
Our Nations Greatest Shame is live exports & allowing ritual slaughter.
The public wont stand for it. There are plants there open them Ask mR lercourt hes made heaps out of this disgusting trade!