It is estimated

that there are over 2 billion Muslims around the world and

that the market for Halal products globally is worth $570billion annually......Look! The RSPCA should stick to cats and dogs. Religion like I always say is nothing more than stone-age man-made rubbish. IMO, once the animal leaves here, what they do else-where, is none of our business.

570 billion! really! and Australia is letting this slip through its hands because Halal is indescribably cruel?

For that kind of cash, 'ritual slaughter' is a little out dated. Yeah right.....what the hell are you people doing?

GIVE THEM THE COWS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeQFAbUD7Y&feature=related

I think its a case of first world meets third world religious practices which the western people just simply don't understand.

Well, I would like to ask the RSPCA and other animal rights organizations what they think about what fisher-men do when killing the simple fish?

I myself take out my knife and while its still alive, I cut its throat.

Is that not Halal? or is it OK because its not religious?

mmmmm don't want to be seen as a hypocrite:)

Here is Jeff Dunham with Achmed.

This in IMO is all we have to be concerned about when it comes to 'ritual slaughter'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouDRDzqTu0M&feature=related

LEAP

I haven't noticed any 'vegans' posting on any of the recent animal rights threads.

Even if they are, I believe they are as entitled to expressing an opinion as we meat eaters.

Last time I checked Bob Katter was not a member of PETA or PALE however he did have this to say:

Independent MP Bob Katter has accused Meat and Livestock Australia (MLA) of “towering incompetence” after it admitted that is has been aware “for years” that there has been widespread animal abuse at Indonesian abattoirs.

Last night MLA’s export manager, Michael Finucan, told ABC TV’s Lateline that the organisation has been working in Indonesia for a decade.

“We’ve been working up here for many years and we’ve always known there’s issues,” he said.

“That’s why we commit resources and time and energy and effort into being in Jakarta, being in Indonesia and delivering these programs.

Mr Katter reacted with fury to the revelation, saying the MLA should pay compensation to the cattle farmers caught at the apex of the crisis.

The decision to suspend trade has left tens of thousands of cattle in limbo across northern Australia, in feed lots or en route for port facilities.

Mr Katter told Lateline that “almost every single aspect” of Mr Finucan’s comments filled him with anger.

“This person tonight admitted that they knew what was going on, that they’d sent people in to have look at this, they knew what was going on and they’ve known for years and years and years about it and they’ve done absolutely nothing about it,” he said.

“They’ve been paid a fortune to carry out things in a toweringly incompetent manner.

Cattle farmers are legally required to pay levies to MLA, and Mr Katter said they would suffer under the trade suspension.

“The Government, what have they done? They’ve punished the beef producers,” he said.

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"“These people live on our frontiers and I can tell you, they don’t live particularly well. They do it very, very hard. And we deeply appreciate what they are doing for our country.

“Who’s going to pay the penalty for this incompetence? Those poor people up there in northern Australia, our frontiersmen, they’re going to pay the penalty.

“The people that were responsible for it will go off completely unscathed.

“The Meat and Livestock Authority is paid $4.20 for every beast. That seems to me to be – and I may stand corrected – about $50 or $60 million a year,” he said.”

http://tinyurl.com/4xq97t6

As I have stated before, not all farmers agree with the MLA.

Furthermore, point of fact the RSPCA is in the unfortunate position of rescuing a diverse range of animals from appalling conditions - not just "dogs and cats".

http://www.woaw.org.au/9to13/cattle-rescue-in-victoria/

Underbelly,
Yes anybody can join& they dont only do Halal but all meat. It is an Australian Organization with the best interests of Australia.

Ammonite
Katter wants more abattoirs- but he said first we have to get live exports up & running again- figure.He is drawing a lot of support. No plans, no ideas, just noises of dumping cattle.

Yabby,& everybody pls read this. It is very long but gives a informed view of the live export situation. If anybody wishes to us any info from it for the inquiry that is geat. Pls just mention Roger a WA man who knows this industry insight and backwards. Hes no veggie or animal lover.

http://www.opiniononlineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=510

Now Yabby,
After you have read that- and only after pls look at this---& remember what Roger said. It takes a while to load & WE have our own people- No aa required. START OPENING PLANTS HERE.
http://www.veoh.com/adultwarning/watch/v19216202Gy66H2N4
You people and I refer to MLA & others have no idea where or when the next lot of footage is going to spring from.

You just CAN NOT stop a full ban on live exports.

Do MLA pay you Yabby to come in here saying silly things? or do you do it because your bored. I note you wont go for a walk with me in the MLA thread thread. Yet your always talking about MLA said ABC.

Speaking of MLA I hear the er partner , that was not informed about AFICs ritual slaughter is none too happy. Wonder why MLA thought it was ok without contacting the er, partner.Just another thing for the inquiry- but I do apologize this thread is after all about ritual slaughter isnt it.

So MLA are promoting/ supporting ritual slaughter without asking the Australian Public farmers & er, the partner.
Come on Yabbs lets take a walk together on the dark side. Lets go into the MLA thread & really have it out.

Or are you too chicken?

*As I have stated before, not all farmers agree with the MLA.*

Ammonite, who ever claimed that they do? But at the end of the
day MLA are there, they have a job to do. If they did not do
the job according to their charter, as instructed by the Govt,
then who is to blame? The only one having any real control over
MLA is the Minister of Agriculture. MLA cannot just do as they
please. They do in fact do some very good stuff in relation to
r&d automation etc. They have done some good work in marketing,
which is their role. But they can't just spend money willy nilly,
to suit the day. The directors are limited by their charter.

Yes, the RSPCA deals with various animal welfare issues, that is
their job. But it is not their job to get involved in economic
or political ideology. It is not their job to tell pastoralists
that they will just have to restructure their businesses, because
the RSPCA thinks its a good idea.

Animal welfare is the issue. If animals are healthy, gaining weight,
being fed and watered, that is what matters, not wether a feedlot
floats or it does not.

Yabby,
You do this all the time. When people post info you ignore it. This is supposed to be a debate ( an informed debate)

I am posting this - again fyi & everybody's.

pls read this. It is very long but gives a informed view of the live export situation. If anybody wishes to us any info from it for the inquiry that is great. Pls just mention Roger a WA man who knows this industry insight and backwards. Hes no veggie or animal lover.

http://www.opiniononlineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=510

Now Yabby,
After you have read that- and only after pls look at this---& remember what Roger said. It takes a while to load & START OPENING PLANTS HERE.
http://www.veoh.com/adultwarning/watch/v19216202Gy66H2N4