*I am trying to say is Wellards hold the key for now & should be pushing to ship them within Australia to be disbursed.*
Yabby,

How do you do. I think Gertrude from what I have read has tried to help and at least made suggestions

There appears to be a nasty tone to several of these comments from what I assume members of the vegan [parade as you put it.

May I say Yabby, you lot cannot expect others to clear up your mess. Do you need somebody to pick up your socks too.

Are you in this trade or just interested in live exports as a topic of discussion?

I picked up the phone and called two graziers whose numbers were on the net. I too would like to help farmers and animals both.

I told them I was reading a forum and someone had suggested using the ships. So do you know what they said.

They said that was raised at a meeting and it had a lot of support but government red tape was the problem.

They said too that the shipping agent had to be the ones to request it. He said shipping and were concerned if they pushed it they would miss out on the other contract ( whatever that means)

They thanked me for calling and said call again anytime. They said they agreed the footage was terrible on 4 corners too.

All your posts keep saying they have to send them . You don’t seem to understand they are not going to.’

Doesn’t matter what I think.

Just think maybe any ideas at all from Kerryanne or Gertrude as you call her, or anybody else are better than none.

Well that’s my lot. I do hope everybody can treat others with respect. Before I go I would like to say thank you to those brave Muslim Leaders who have spoken in support of RSPCA. It can’t be easy for them dealing with the other more extreme.

Yabby, Nobody likes the way our animals are treated. Are you not horrified too?

My turn to say sorry because i should not have agreed with yabby speaking of veggy p. i am sorry i had just watch a video 4 corners and say silly comment. yabby who ever they are they do better job than yours regarding concerns for animal welfare. i think too the boats are a good idea and better sitting back crying because they sent animals there and yes i think all knew. lets fix it by opening here.

PETITION TO THE HONOURABLE THE SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ASSEMBLED IN PARLIAMENT: The petition of certain citizens of Australia asking the House to review the decision by Kraft Foods Limited to label Vegemite as Halal certified. We believe that such labeling is unnecessary in a Country where ..http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3287:boycott-vegemite&catid=180&Itemid=18



So we know this is accredited by AFIC who support ritual slaughter.



Kerryanne can the others do something about this with their accreditation to these big companies? I think the Australian public should have the right to know if they are buying something that has been involved in ritual slaughter.



I want clear labelling and to give buyers the education to make a choice. Thank you for what you are trying to do. Can non Muslims join this Animal Welfare Organisations too Kerryanne?





I found this too- I will not! Eat their cheese! Kerryanne you are very brave to take these people on and I wish you and the others all the luck in the world. I read your organisations web site.

'rennet'. http://www.afic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20-29-ma6.pdf





The MLA-developed Halal brand appears on retail meat

packs and point of sale and guarantees that the meat has

come from an animal that has been slaughtered according

to the strict Islamic Shariah. Under the new arrangement,

Halal meat sent from Australia to Islamic countries is

accompanied by an official government certificate and

stamp which is further endorsed with an authorised Islamic

Organisation stamp.

In Australia, the Halal process is regulated through the

Australian Government Authorised Halal Program (AGAHP)

by AQIS and is supervised by independent Islamic

organisations.

All Australian Halal meat is labelled as having passed

through the AGAH program and this certification is only

allowed to be placed on meat that has been processed at a

registered Halal certified abattoir.

Australia currently exports beef, sheepmeat and goatmeat

to over 40 Islamic countries, including Indonesia, which is

Australia's fifth largest beef export market. It is estimated

that there are over 2 billion Muslims around the world and

that the market for Halal products globally is worth $570billion annually

Gawd here we go, the best friend is back. Gertrude, you are so
predictable.

Good intentions without thinking through the unintended consequences,
is what created the mess. Good intentions are not enough to solve
it.
Around Australia thousands of farmers are making it clear to a very
jittery Minister for Agriculture, reopen the trade. He agrees and
so does the Prime Minister, so now its just a question of the date
and trying to pacify the Indonesians. Meantime I'm told they are
busy installing lots of new equipment in Indonesia. Good.

Dear Yabby,



I see you are not going to answer my questions but given I have lost my glasses , I thought you might help us all out by reading “today’s” media releases

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/regions/content/201107/3258320.htm



http://abc.com.au/rural/wa/northwestwa/



I can’t see your claims being announced there – can you? Tell me do you grow anything else.



The Prime Minister will not reopen this trade for a few months. It would be political suicide and who knows what else she has seen…



It could well be that public demand makes the Government ban it in total.



Regardless of that I am very much behind RSPCA banning ritual slaughter in Australia.

Perhaps you could grow Pumpkins and get them Halal accredited given your interest is only in the $.

You seem to lack any empathy for these animals and protect the very ones involved in inflicting this treatment on millions of Animals.

You can’t be partly responsible Yabby. If your friends hold up a bank and your only driving the getaway car you just as responsible.

If you turn a blind eye to ritual slaughter in Australia you are just as much a part of the problem as those directly involved.

I will take a guess and say you’re in your later years. Ok, but think if you want your grand-children forced to follow these extreme cruel laws.



If we don’t protect the Animals from cruel ritual slaughter who will protect your grand-children

http://qcl.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/political/gillard-says-cattle-exports-to-thrive/2211737.aspx?storypage=0

There ya go. If she doesen't hurry up, those boats will be off
to Brazil to load up and nobody will worry about welfare then.

You'll just have to watch the Australian cattle die of hunger and
thirst, when it happens later on. It will be filmed, that I can
tell you. Such lovers of animals, these
vegans.