SM,

Are you simply stirring? We've already covered all of this ground - can't you come up with anything better? I mean come-on. If you've actually read Prof. Garnaut's report you should know that houeholds will have their compensation for a carbon tax ramped up over time after the plan is introduced. The money raised by taxing big polluters will go to households through generous tax cuts and benefits payments. As he stated, "It makes sense from equity and efficiency perspectives for households to ultimately receive the vast majority of the carbon price revenue."

There will be a huge change for Australia - with new tenchnology and investment in renewable energies - creating more jobs and a cleaner environment. Benefits for us all.

Finally, there will be - "structural adjustments" for workers and communities in coal regions or other high emitting regions that will be affected by the new tax - Prof. Garnaut recommended about $1 billion over four years to be set aside to help those communities.

I hope this clarifies things for you (again - sigh).

Hi Lexi,

You used the "structural adjustments", which tends to bring a person like me out in hives....'tis a freaky phrase, as structural adjustments have been employed by the IMF and World Bank to take advantage of third world economies....hopefully it has an entirely different meaning in our case.

http://www.essentialaction.org/imf/saps.htm

Lexi,

I am perfectly clear on what Garnaut means.

I am also perfectly aware of the implications. Coming from the manufacturing sector, I am acutely aware that all manufacturing uses energy. And all manufacturing competes fiercely with products from China, Indonesia, etc none of which are going to be subject to a carbon tax.

For example, a mill that buys waste paper from councils and produces boxes competes directly with China, South Africa etc. Bulk energy makes up 10% of their total cost, and is set to double with the carbon tax. Mills in Sydney and Melbourne are set to close, and one in Perth already has.

There is now a market to sell the waste paper to China, and net emissions will not change.

SM, this is the problem that many don't see. It's not their fault as the majority of them have never created a single job, they have simply been provided with a job.

You see, the emissions are not going to go away, as long as the demand for paper etc continues and it will.

The emissions, along with the 'jobs' will simply leave our shores and go elsewhere.

I go back to my original possition of years ago and say, we need to deal with carbon, rather than try to reduce it.

Carbon capture should be at the forefront of research.

Using plantation timber for building is one way, the carbon is captured for ever. Or at least for the life of the house.

Perhaps we can lock carbon up in items such as bricks and concrete.

Perhaps it can be used in road surfacing, or car panels. Who knows, I am not a scientist.

However, what I do know is that so long as demand remains to grow, it will be impossible to reduce emissions while feeding this demand and, if we don't feed the demand, another country will while omitting the same emissions.

CO2 is a 'wolrd problem' not and Australian problem.

They say that Australia's CO2 output (globally) is likened to one single hair on the gateway bridge.

This is a global problem and until every nation takes action, only the 'good guys' will loose.

When is this government going to loose its obsession for holding trophies, most of them failures.

Lexi Shadow Minister under stands his job however is to be a brick wall to truth.
Rechtub probably does not.
Butcher old mate you sound, no truly,like you are dressed in bib and brace over alls straw hat on your head.
Standard redneck stuff.
A worker who never created a job?
Boss must be a real dill employers employ to produce.
Good workers produce including jobs.
As I advised SM the tide has turned 74% say they believe in man made climate change.
One day, not a long way away, you side will adopt it too.
ONE wish if I could get just one,every climate change denier who like your self based their views on no understanding ,would have to wear a clapboard saying so one day a week.
Abbott's would read so I lied whats new.

Belly,
obviously IQ has got nothing to do with spelling. You think I'm putting everyone down ? Well I'd call it stirring them to wake up. You see one of the major causes for dysfunction in our society is the handing out of accolades at every whim. People who happen to do once in a while what their job dictates become heroes. People who die in accidents become heroes. People who can run faster than anyone become heroes. People with education (but no sense) become pillars of society. Crook Judiciary & politicians become honourable. The list of people who think they're clever but do a lot of damage is long. In fact it has become so long that the average non-thinking football watching beer guzzler accepts this dreadful situation as normal. You just let these half-baked academics walk all over you without any qualm. That's why Belly, I stir. To make them think !