Suse,
Gillard is an absolute liar and a failure. I do not agree with you about your preference for Turnbull as Opposition leader. We would now have an ETS if he were. I do not particularly like Abbott either and he lacks any charisma at all, but he did stop us from having an ETS, so must get a few points for that.

Lexi,
You have absolutly no proof whatsoever that there is human induced climate change. Like all other warmists and alarmists, it is a religion for you with no basis, only your blind faith.

Show me your proof and I will discard my sceptisism.

In the last 10 years carbon dioxide has increased yet the global temperature has dropped, so if CO2 causes global temperatures to rise why has it not done so?

We have no influence over tides, earthquakes or volcanos and we have no influence over the worlds climate, end of story.

Belly,
The whole carbon dioxide tax is a fraud. It is designed purely to gain revenue that this government blew in stupid schemes over the past few years.

Is Mise....well if the findings are true, we cant afford to stop, and slowing human growth wont stop either.

So the planets system are going to be fine, I think FUBAR is all thats left to say.

The old wont be worried, but the new definitely will:)

LEAP

Banjo,

We've been down this route previously and I feel that nothing constructive will be achieved by going over the same ground again.
If you want evidence - just Google the subject - there's plenty of evidence on the web - or go to your local library. There's plenty of documented scientific material available. As a librarian I don't deal with "faith" I've been trained to deal with facts regardless of what you may think.

However, you may one day realise that something is happening when changes in the global circulation patterns that drive the weather bring about more powerful storms, more numerous hurricanes, rises in sea levels; flooding of river delta cities (Cairo, New Orleans); inundation of low lying areas like the Netherlands; seepage of salt water into many fresh-water sources, and aridity in previously fertile areas. Then by the end of the 21st century when global temperatures increase by as much as 9 degrees, raising sea-levels by ten to twelve feet turning tropical areas into deserts, and creating a climate far warmer than anything humanity ever experienced.

You may then begin to question your scepticism. You may stop listening to the economic interests behind "smokestack" industries.
They're a powerful lobby reluctant to commit the necessary resources to the task of curbing emissions. Profits are more important afterall.
And who cares about the future - live for today. That unfortunately seems to be the mantra for so many people.

cont'd...

Banjo - you and I know that you can't convince some people. Like telling them not to live in bush-fire areas, or flood-prone plains.
And not prepare for the inevitable but simply think -"She'll be right, mate!" So too with climate change - and the susequent consequences - you can't convince some people that the inevitable is coming and the costs will be far greater if you do nothing.

So therefore, when the proverbial excrement hits the fan - they will scream and deny and demand why nothing was done in the past. That's
human nature.

Lexi I understand all the worry about our climate changing, and I realise that humans pollute their Earth, and that the Earth is worse off for that.

What I find hard to believe is that humans directly affect our climate as such. All the dire warnings about rain, winds, droughts and storms are preceded with such comments as "...the worst in 50 (or 70 or 100 or whatever) years."

The fact is that the same thing happened all those years ago as well. Maybe the climate problem was just having it's turn at coming around again?

I don't usually get into the arguments about climate change because I really don't believe it is human activity that caused it, and I am always afraid of getting lynched :

Lexi

Considering I've been described as someone ( *so I don't have to drop my pants and run around the room.* will in time, be laughing at their own stupidities since what I and many others that use the evidence:) and others will be seen as just over-educated oxygen time wasters and the only thing their really cleaver at doing, is showing off how smart they are to each other by selectively illustrating their talents, but really saying...look at me, look at how clever Iam, and yet provide No answers, No solutions, and show all how obtuse they are in actively doing Nothing creative with there brilliancy. Well clap, clap, for the handy-capped:)
I would normally tell these people to go to hell....but I think their already there. So while your so full of gutsy vigor, most seem just to be contented with having the mentality of a gang of monkeys furiously typing Shakespeare in ever reversible circles.

If your all so edumakated, why do you all just watch the impending disasters approach, then disparage all others and don't make any effort yourselves in this situation.

They Can talk the talk, but cant walk the walk:)

Well, Iam quite use to your insulting behaviorism's and the disrespects for all to see, and I will go down on OLO as at least someone who tried. I know Iam just wasting my time.....but having fun none the less:).....that's what its all about, right?

Maybe, we just all let it go, and sit on your fat arses and do what you all do best....and that's Nothing.....and when its all FUBAR....don't come crying to me:)

Its public record you know:)

:P

lea