Consumers consume,that is the basis for Capitalism and our very way of life.
It is why we live in City's, not caves.
Industrialization changed us.
We consumed more,so produced more.
Coal, oil was used much more and production Individual saw a reason for the population to grow.
No guarantees that what we produced did us any good.
We of British stock, introduced drugs to China,they consumed it nearly being forced to.
As a result of population growth we have changed the world more in the last 250 years than its whole history.
You smirk in print, put your self confident paper chin out and express the view,,BA humbug!
On what evidence.
How did you find out those who believe are village idiots.
What insight told you those who consume are guilty not those who produce green house gas.
We all consume dirty fuels,we need new fuels for other reasons too but we need cleaner fuels.
We need coal still each year we burn more why would it not pollute.
Individual inform me,I like to learn how do you know we are wrong.
Yours village idiot Belly

Latest poll results:

A Galaxy poll for News Ltd shows the majority of Australians are against a carbon tax and believe it will leave them worse off financially.

The poll - of 500 people around Australia on June 1 and 2 - reveals 58 per cent are opposed to the tax, with just 28 per cent in favour. The remainder are undecided.

News Limited says two-thirds of voters want Prime Minister Julia Gillard to call an election before introducing the tax, and three-quarters believe it will leave them financially worse off and deliver little or no benefit for the environment.

Only 24 per cent think Ms Gillard has a mandate to introduce the tax.

The poll comes in the wake of Sunday's say yes' rallies across the nation which attracted tens of thousands of supporters who urged the federal government to put a price on carbon dioxide emissions.

The cause is lost. Tony Abbott will have a strong mandate to remove the tax when he gets into office, if Juliar does manage to get it through. The independents if they have any regard for re election cannot help but reflect what their vote for the tax will have on their re election chances.

Belly,

"It is why we live in Citys, not caves."

I'm constantly fascinated that when capitalism's voracious nature is challenged, that those defending its waste, greed and pollution instantly produce the "cave" as the only alternative option.

Shows a lack of imagination, methinks : )

Poirot

I shake my head when the 'cave' alternative is lobbed out whenever anyone mentions alternatives to unfettered growth. I agree a distinct lack of vision is demonstrated by those who worship unregulated capitalism.

The irony is that if we do not start to conserve non-renewable resources, reduce pollution, recycle products and transition to sustainable technology, we very likely will wind up in the caves that neo-capitalists keep using as a knee-jerk response.

I can't believe that we are still just sitting around arguing about it.

LADY'S PLEASE! me thinks I am a bit older than you, lived all those dreams one world equality and equity.
Live in an area that is known for the fact a couple,timber getter and wife lived in a hollow tree over 100 years ago.
I lived without electricity and dirt floors no transport and no chance.
Capitalism saved me from that.
We see rarely, our forest dwellers still today, new generations of them.
Sponsored by you and me they find new and interesting ways to be paid welfare by the system they dislike so very much.
Socialism did not work, or did it, if we are not largely a mix of it and capitalism what are we.
Compare us with America, in health education transport so very much.
Dream the dream Capitalism is evil, Dennie industrial revolution changed the world.
Talk to me of my blindness but life and the world runs on COMPROMISE.
Getting the best out come that serves the most.
Every one gets a chance to hate politicians as they can never deliver everything we want.
Certainties? none exist but this I truly know,I have a soft spot for you two, but fear you both, not just you.
But a middle class left that ignores perfection is dream,that never understands we must compromise or be ruled by the direct opposite of what we want.

Aw, shucks, Belly, we've got a soft spot for you too : )

Capitalism tends to be more into steamrolling than compromise, don't you know.

Btw, I live in hollow tree - except I've got electrickery and the internet (that's progress for you!)