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dreaming when you can remember is an out of body experience. it's all controlled by your own brain.
Posted by jinny, Thursday, 25 November 2010 5:57:00 PM
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jinny quote..<<dreaming..*when you can remember..is an out of body experience.>>even if we dont recall...yes it is out-of body..[thus the feeling of falling..as we go to sleep]

i havnt studied that aspect of it much
but i recall...those doing the astral traveling[out of body]...report seeing their spirit-cord...this has also bebn reported by vivid dreamers..

its..[an under appriciated skill];..where we change the course of a dream...simply by realisation we are dreaming...and making the changes we seek..[much like we need to do..once we are dead]

there is so much more too it...[i recall that in the gone-west link[i think]...there was a spirit...[the officer]..who took over the body..of a person...expermenting with out of body...[so lets recall to be carefull..for what we wish]

the key is ofcourse with not driving away..
our light spirit..[protecing guardian angel]..by the thinking of vile thoughts and vile works...and to keep in mind that simply thinking evil...attracts evil...and thats how evil...'gets-in'.

if only it was as simple..as jinny put it..<<it's all controlled by your own brain.>>i will admit our thoughts..[ok more our feelings/lusts/wants..desires and DEEDS]...are conected with the spirit..through our brain...[and our hearts..liver...and aura]

but its far from true in saying..its..*all from*..our own head
to begin with..there is outside..in-fluence..[external..in-flux]..outside in-flow..both spiritually...as well as physicly...that isnt from..our minds

that yet is allowed reverberation..in our minds
but thats affect..not cause..the true cause was external

we need to be carefull..trying to simplify..things
nothing is assured..thus its best to play safe..and retain the love state..[love good...love neighbour]..

singing a love song..drives away demons...
singing a war chant..brings them near....
thinking of violence..allows them to bring the realisation into being..through us...into reality...then via reality into others

so as the good-book says

be carefull what we think[or wish]..for*
it just might be granted...and have a higher price..
than we thought..due..to be payed..one small vile thought now
maybe an eternity in hell later...[stick with love good/love neighbour]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 26 November 2010 2:43:29 AM
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UOG:you are so funny...the way you like to analyse everything.

here is my thoughts on dreams: they come to us when there are things bothering us, whether good or bad(usually the bad ones are the ones you remember). I don't dream much anymore, but lately in my short time of sleep i have dreams again which i question.

i've had dreams which when i had them, i didn't understand, but later on they made a lot of sense. I reckon it's our instincts in our subconscious mind giving us signals that something is amiss. i should've paid more attention to mine.

nightmares are worse.. u lay in bed, n feel this dreadful feeling that someone/thing is trying to take ur sole away. the pain feels like someone/thing trying to pull ur heart out. and in that state of mine, sometimes u realize that it is a nightmare, and ur trying to wake up, but it takes a while, n i wake up in cold sweat. this is my past.. not present, i hv overcome my fears.
Posted by jinny, Friday, 26 November 2010 3:20:01 AM
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i love the way you just barge through..jinny
it helps me think...so saying i quote/you

<<on dreams:..they come to us>>one would thus need to ask...come to us from where?

out-of-body...means..LEAVING..this body...meaning..those..type of dreams..need to happen..outside us...not in us.

you then explain...ho..'they-come'..<<when there are things bothering us,>>.remembeering its our thought..that bother..'them'..first

our thought...is energy..'fior them'..<<whether good or bad(usually the bad ones are the ones you remember).>>this is because we get woken-up..by the unusual..experience..of fear/fright..or other emotional autoreaction..or conscieuce aberation..in our dream state

[some love fear..thus dont wake-up]..[either way...most dreams are soon forgotten..by the conscience-mind]..but not the subconscience mind..that replays them all..[mainly after this life passes

we all...'dream'..in fact science has found..if we dont dream..thats when we lose our grip,.on this lifes normality..and lifes nice-ities

clearly we can forget<<I don't dream much anymore,>>in the full nights sleep?

<<but lately..in my short time of sleep..i have dreams again which i question.>>yes i like naps..too...thats why i try to..return to a bief sleep..before rising

<<later on..they made a lot of sense.>>thats why they become part of our..post-life revieuw

<<our subconscious mind/signals that something is amiss.>>there are many..ttypes of dreams...i like comfort dreams

<<nightmares are worse..[the feeling of spirits}..trying to take ur sole away.>>>they are..trying to take the soul/body over...they expecially love..those sleeping under influence of..sleep/drugs..or other drugs[booze/pills]or bad emotions..

thats why alcoholics..shouldnt take another drink..ever
they have hyper-sensativity..to outside possesion

<<the pain feels like someone/thing trying to pull ur heart out.>>gods spirit..[his life spirit]..resides..in our hearts..[is enthroned,,in our heart]..in the flesh/astral..spirit..body

we manage..to trick ourselves..we are in..full control
but we dont got that..
till we *OWN..our sleep...fearlessly..TOO..

first think no evil
then think only love
then do only good..no booze..no pills..

treat the body like a temple..[of love..not lust]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 26 November 2010 7:10:49 AM
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OUG:hey,i hv to deal with my own thoughts and try to come up with good enough arguments to tell my brain to stop being so stubborn aite?:P

they come to us from the spirits(which some chooses to deny). explain to me your theories on how the great pyramids were actually built(i can't believe i used to believe the books stating how they had slaves get those huge slabs of rocks up). i am drawn to orion's belt. just not enough time to do enough research. since i was a kid, it has been that constellation.

"out-of-body...means..LEAVING..this body": don't we leave it physically in dreams? in dreams we see and believe the visuals that comes into mind. ppl who gets possessed, what/how does that happen? i hv my theories. most of them can't remember if they're ever lucky enough to get out of it. the ones who do remember are to afraid usually to talk about it for fear of being told they're crazy. bottom line: it's all controlled by their own brains, what they hv been thought to believe.

"we all...'dream'..in fact science has found" i think in some cases, science has been proven to be wrong. after all, they're only thoughts of a group of people with a piece of paper and what they believe.

err, no drugs apart from alcohol(not even medication for a long time now apart from paracetamol once in a while for headaches/migranes) but even without it it's still the same. oh and tobacco. who came out with the news report on how alcohol is the worse drug in the world, is so wrong n thanks to that i had to get lectured.

irregular sleeping patterns since 15 n never dared touch a sleeping pill coz i already realized my addictive nature(as you can see in my need to respond here). function normal physically: scientifically, (i have stated this before) it has not been proven how much of sleep our brain actually needs, only recommended by.. ehemm 'scientists'.just gives me more time in a day to spend annoying and irritating and fixing stuff.

tbc
Posted by jinny, Friday, 26 November 2010 7:41:34 AM
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choose not to talk to ppl about my insane theories coz i make them think to much and instead of having fun they start pondering about what i discussed.

hey, if you don't know how to enjoy the benefits of alcohol, i feel sorry for ya. responsible vs irresponsible.

my body is my temple, god lives within me, EVIL? it's usually mental disorders, and i've got happy news that one of 'em is suffering.. hahaha.. karma :P yippee.. maybe that's why i'm so happy today even with the stuff that's going on.

those who have no hope for the future, ur so depressing... uughh.. where's ur spirit? it obviously needs some uplifting, do something about it.

UOG: you keep go searching and analyzing stuff.. i enjoy reading them. beneficial specially all ur tips and tricks. i'm not happy with my electricity bill either but hey, everyone loves this place, ladida.

cross my arms, close my eyes, make a wish, blink! smile! hope my wish came true:)
Posted by jinny, Friday, 26 November 2010 7:46:38 AM
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