UOG: we are all entitled to our own believes, and i respect yours. i am sorry to hear about your story. i am very lucky in that way. the kids have everything(i've spoilt them). only not family. but i speak to them all the time about if they are happy here, and the have settled in school and are both popular and outstanding in their performances, if they want to go back instead, coz i know i am letting them miss out on the bondage of family, which is very important to me. and they are. i see their joy and i don't mind the struggle. as long as they are happy, healthy and safe. here they fit in normal, there they do not specially after what has happened.

now back to karma.. don't know if you saw what happened here, but i would say another perfect example of karma.. which is, when we do something wrong, in whatever way, it will always get back at us. i can give so many examples i have seen, but to space for that.

everyone wants a change, we question things because we don't understand, we're confused. some are lost, so lost that they get into so much trouble. just today, i see one walking and crying, and a few others who are just lost... lost spirits, they have forgotten their roots...

i saw what occured..it pains me
but i dont want to talk about it

im not here..*to judge right...nor wrong
karma is what it is..

people cant change their nature
[thats why the absurdity..of jesus dying..for us to sin]
our heart's want what the heart wants...[usually answers]

but there isnt an answer..for everything
those with evil in their hearts..know how to bring out evil..even in the best people..how goeth the saying..'pride goeth..before the fall'

then there is the trueism...of letting sleeping dogs lie
and this i must*do..in the respect of those who are no longer with-us

talking can change nothing...if it could sooth savaged pride
the world might be a better place..but only sincere repentance holds true value...were none as brave as we could be..

not everyone wants change..but sometimes change is thrust upon us

yes..we question things..*because we don't understand,
and because we feel the need to comprehend things..that seemingly sem harsh..yes we can get to the stage...where..<we're confused.>

most of us..<<are lost,..many..<<so lost that they get into so much trouble.>>and god seeks to comfort them all

but we cry so loud..we cant hear his voice saying..
i love you..

<<just today,..i see one walking and crying,>..im close myself

<<and a few others..who are just lost...lost spirits,
they have forgotten their roots...>>

not their roots...only lost sight..of what is most important
the result...[the finished painting...the completed work]..that which we all in time are destined to become]..

that day we can be in complete atonement..
[at-one-meant]..to the only..*one...who alone is at one with us all

anyhow

i go
to mourn
a dear friend

"people cant change their nature" people can change.. i've had this discussion forever. i have changed, and if i can change, so can everyone else. the more we know and realize, the more we can change, whether or not we allow ourselves to change is the issue.

why are some humans so good, and some so bad, not because they were born that way, it's because of misguidance and not being able to understand how life works.

about Jesus' sacrifices, i have only read about it, no actual proof. religion is fairly new to our 4+ billion yr old planet.

the ones that are no longer with us hv left us with their memories, thus their spirit will remain alive in us, just not their physical being.

everything for a reason, there is always an answer. if i reflect on my past, i can come up with answer to why what happened, to make me be a better person in life.

the word 'god' has existed for how long? how did humanity survive before that, must've been a miracle aiy?(am currently having discussions on this elsewhere but not as active as here)

we are never alone, only alone if you choose to go down that path.

OUG: what happened to Utopia? don't go get all depressing too...

im not depressed jinny
i dont allow myself..to get too close to people
its just the piper has spunk..they?..threw all the had..at her...

and she still wasnt afraid..to ask questions...even off those who..like god created..this realm..where we commune with each other...our most private thoughts..and confidences

we forget..that without others..
its only us..puffing into the wind
pumping out words into the aether..to what reason?

so those who despise us and our mates..can play their games
write cleverly phased complaint..get rid of those who dare ask questions...

ok..we have learned..not to question

learned to obey..the whims of those..who see their duty...to complain
but are these..that complain...doing any better..than those they manage to remove..from these pages...remove from our lives..

i dont question..anyones*..right
to do as they feel needs doing...

its just i dont see reason to do..
with the sword of damaclease..hanging..over my words

or thinking..wether i use the wrong word...
or frighten..their next complainent..into writing their complaint

to what end..to try to help others
when those clearly..*caring too much..are the first to go
by the hand of those..who may*not care less...or worse have some adgenda

i have the words sock-puppet in my mind
but what is a sock...or who is a puppet

i read the post's..preceeding..and see that some*..might call a flame..[simply by mentioning others..who too..have gone...by name]..clearly..by reading between the lines...piper asked for more info

and maybe..[for all i can do is guess]...the person who's mission..might* be to complain...who might* have removed any or all..[for all i know]...put their fears..hopes...into action..and pushed the red-cross

im not thinking properly..
so no doudt im not speaking clearly..
but..what shall it cost..those lost..still remain lost

how can i do my work
when the choice..of further work...dosnt lie with me..
but the..one?..with an adgenda...and the means to complain..even get writing deleted...

by a deed..how often repeated?

350 words deleted..they cant all have been off topic..or flame..
or..whatever others did find..about which..to complain..

i need to feel sad
only then can i think
whats the underlying reason
who sought to break that final link

ok the events...have admitted negative spirits
their result=Psychic Invalidism

Spirits..who are ignorant of having lost..their physical-bodies..often hold firmly in mind..*the thought*..of..their former physical condition..and..continue to suffer pain...

thus become attatched..to those in the same conditioning..

This..“error of the mortal mind”..[often results in sickness..or other phyco-somatic..symptom...see..18*..[see under]..

these symptoms..often persist..until
an understanding of transition..and spiritual laws is reached,
when freedom*..from..the ideas*..of physical limitations..is attained.

When spirits..who are under this delusion of suffering..and disease

come into the sym-pathetic/auras*..of mortals..of like ignorance...of their physical..versis..their spiritual condition...the SYMPTOM..not their own symptom..!..

is conveyed to these sensitives,..[they are haunted..possesed..by demons..and chronic lassitude,..pseudo-illness....[phyco-somastic..{unconcious}..pain..and psychic invalidism result.

These sensitives..endure all the pain..of the haunting-spirits’ former physical condition,..and ordinary methods of treatment..fail to cure,..or relieve pain..or defect..for the only permanent relief is found through...the dislodgement..exorcism]..of the ignorant entities..haunting the living

18*..see Mrs.baker-Eddy's.."Mortal Mind" teaching,
see Chap.14,..Page 281...

so off i go to find the book
to quote from it..[for this is my work]..
but having a hard-time tracking it down...yet good info on the way

http://www.fullbooks.com/Rudimental-Divine-Science.html
http://christianscience.rolf-witzsche.com/
http://alternate-healing-science-christian.ca/gala/index.html

basic concepts...we are a (Spiritual reflection)..of the one cause

Where..the spirit of God is,..and there is no place where God is
not,..evil becomes nothing,..the opposite of..the something of
Spirit.

If there is no spiritual reflection,..then there remains
only the darkness of vacuity..and not a trace of heavenly tints.
(S&H 408:2)

(Spiritual existence..the one fact)
For right reasoning..there should be but one fact..before*..the
thought,..*namely,..gods good..living loving..but fully[wholly]..spiritual existence.

In reality..there is no other existence,*..since Life in mortality[and sickness...and error]..^*..cannot*be united..to its..unlikeness,..immortality...eternal_good..eternal_love..eternal_health....ie god

Man is tributary..[means..poor reflection..of the good..
that leads to God,..Spirit,..and to nothing else...but everything..god sustains into being

God's..being is infinity,..freedom,..harmony,..and boundless bliss...health..plenty..grace mercy..love..

"Where the Spirit of the Lord is,..there is liberty."

Like the..patri-arch..priests of yore,..man is free
"to enter into the holiest," -the realm of Good...into the very presents[presence]..of good..himself..

the..very Material sense..never helps mortals
to understand the eternally..good/love/grace...mercy...
of his*Spirit..[god's]..(S&H 481:2)

As used in Christian Science,..Soul is properly the synonym of Spirit,..or God;..good

but..out/of Science,..soul is identical..with senses,..
and united with material sensation...emotion...fear..or fear-lessness personified..dependant..upon how we refect..the only perfect[good]..god..(S&H 482)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science

Mrs Mary Baker Eddy is neither a Christian nor a Scientist. She is a spiritualist which her beliefs in many compensation cases in courts of law has been repeatedly discredited as fraudulent .