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At the core of Christian Science..is the teaching that God..and God's creation..are entirely*..good..and spiritual,..and that God has made all things..*in his likeness.

Christian Scientists hold..that the reality of being
and..of all that God makes*..is spiritual,..not material.

They see this spiritual reality..as the only reality..
and all else as illusion..or "error."..[its we*..who give evil/sickness/hate..its reality]

Christian Science acknowledges..that all people..seem to be experiencing..a material existence,..but holds..that this experience ultimately*..yields..to a true spiritual understanding of God..and HIS*..creation.

They believe that this..is how healing..through prayer is possible.

Prayer,..from the Christian Science perspective,..does not ask God to intervene*..but is rather a process..of learning*..more of God's spiritual reality..–"awakening impermanent-mortal thought,to the eternal..of spirit"..by degrees,..bringing all..into spiritual truth.

Christian Scientists show..the effect of..this spiritualization of thought..in healing*..physical,emotional,and otherwise.

Health care..of those..for whom Christian Science is the preferred mode of treatment..is typically not attempted through drugs,..surgery,..or other conventional methods..

but through Christian Science treatment,..a specific form of prayer..intended to spiritualize thought...[but knowing..so much is faith dependant...and..we have so little faith..*by design..of those who reject god as the reality]..via deciets..such as evolution..or faith in medisin..[the material...not its sustaing good cause[love]..god]..

According to Christian Scientists,..medicine*..asserts that something is physically broken..and needs to be fixed,.

while Christian Science asserts..that..the spiritual reality is harmonious..and perfect..and that any belief..to the contrary..needs to be corrected...

as it is this very error..held by ignorant spirits
causing the sickness..into being..

but even our minds are dull..to the reality of good[god]

yet..even my firm belief..
cannot make my computer..go online
let alone..go the next step..in my re-search
http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/mary-baker-eddy/writings/science-and-health
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 November 2010 10:50:13 AM
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phillo...i dont trust law courts..they are a joke
take the so called trial of evolution/creationism
this trial was about wether religion could be taught as science
naturally they arnt the same

yet we have these decievers of men
telling people the court case judged against religeon/god
and found for evolution...[but evolution wasnt on trial]
teaching religeon..as science was

winning the case only confirms...
science and religeon..deserve their own teachers
in different class rooms

but such is the nature of evil
on constant attack...on the things they really fear

your revealing there have been many attacks on maries works
only confirms..they are frightend...of something

notice the link to athiest's...at the bottum of the wikisheet
how much more obvious...they have been doing their thing,..there too

not just in the courts
if believe=faith...the smallest doudt..negates the faith neded to makle healing work

those vile evil demons do their division well
in time we will mature...in our common beliefs..in the one good/god
and swedenberg..luther..eddie baker..mahamoud..budda...etc
etc will be recognised as the saints..of faith and humanity..they are

Question...What is God?

Answer.--God is incorporeal,..divine,..supreme,..infinite
Mind,logic..Spirit,body/Soul, devine-Principle,..

Life-sustainer,..Truth,..light,..Love/life...

the well-being..[healing]..saving us from sickness
the one..unity..bringing us from..dissunity
the logic..relieving..us..of ill-logic
the good..saving us from our-own bad

the peace..repairing the pieces
the one...sustaining the many

conme on..we know..evil will studiously try to divide
and cant even comprehend..why..it fights lov
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 November 2010 11:51:49 AM
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UOG,
It is on the basis of this statement that CS cannot stand for payments of compensation for physical injury, payments for loss of pay for physical work. All these things are an illusion.

"Christian Scientists hold..that the reality of being and..of all that God makes*..is spiritual,..not material. They see this spiritual reality..as the only reality..and all else as illusion..or "error."..[its we*..who give evil/sickness/hate..its reality]
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 27 November 2010 2:31:08 PM
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i thought i would check on these court cases phillo

turns out..its about the copyright..of maries..science/health text
hardly worthy of notice

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/23/us/christian-science-text-s-copyright-is-ruled-illegal-by-appeals-court.html

The dissident group..filed suit in 1983 after it was forced by the First Church of Christ,..Scientist..to remove copyrighted material

The court said,..''It is not the function of government..to promote religious worship,..to enable a religious entity*..to control statements of church doctrine,..or to guide a..'confused' public to..'correct' religious authority.''

Together with the Bible,.''Health and Science''
is regarded as..*the church's pastor...

thus open freely...even to Lay readers
to conduct theie church services.

http://www.planetfreebook.com/Classic_collection/classic_books_author_ABC_PDF_edited_filenames/Baker%20Eddy.Mary!Science%20and%20Health%20With%20Keys%20to%20the%20Scriptures.pdf

Spiritual awakening
extracted..from..95-28

Lulled by stupefying illusions,..the world is asleep
..in the cradle of infancy,..dreaming away the hours.

Material sense..does not unfold..the facts of existence;
but spiritual sense..lifts human-consciousness..into eternal Truth.

Humanity advances..slowly out of
the sinning sense..into..*spiritual understanding;

unwillingness...*to learn all things rightly,...
[ie doing..as we saw jesus do]..binds Christen-dom..with chains.

in..The darkest hours of all..Love will finally mark
the hour of harmony,..and spiritualization..*will follow,

for Love*is Spirit...

This material world..is even now becoming
the arena for conflicting forces.

On one side there will be discord..and dismay;
on the other side there will be..Science and peace.

The breaking up of material beliefs
may seem to be famine..and pestilence,..want and woe,
sin,sickness,..and death,..

from which..assume..the new form..of ever more new phases
until the reality..of their former materialistic reality..assumes its true nothingness and..simply dis-appears.

These disturbances..will continue..*until the end of error,
when all discord..will be swallowed up..in spiritual Truth.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 November 2010 2:38:27 PM
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i extensivly edited maries text...submitted it to the church
and later found it in the rubbish bin..[but such is life]

there are those who see the meaning..*behind..the words
and those who see only the numbers before the words

all religious texts must be visualised
seeing if their envisdioning reveals good..[from god]
or not good...that not..'of'..god

lets edit another random text...by overlaying..'it'..over the totality of what mary and so many others have revealed to us..[each in their time]..for god has given us a progressive revelation

sent many messengers
but all must be veted via loves filter
in total..they reveal all the good truth mercy grace..of god

As this consummation draws nearer,..he who has
96-26 shaped his course..in accordance with divine Science..[love seeking healing of all error]..will endure to the end.

As material knowledge diminishes..and spiritual understanding
96-29 increases,..real objects will be apprehended mentally...instead of materially.

During this final conflict,..wicked minds will endeavor..to find means..*by which to accomplish..ever..more evil;

BUT..those who discern Christian..Science will hold their own..crime[error]..in check...They will aid in the ejection of all error...[by works...deeds...of love of good...and love of neighbour]

They
97-3 3..will maintain law and order,

and cheerfully await the
97-4 certainty..of ultimate perfection...[righfully due to all]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 November 2010 2:53:47 PM
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Sensationless body

Rightly understood,..instead of possessing a sentient/material-form, man has a sensation-less body;..and God..the Soul of man..and of all existence,..being perpetual in His own individuality,..harmony,and immortality,..imparts..and perpetuates..*these qualities..*in man,..*through Mind,..*not matter.

The only excuse...for entertaining human opinions..and rejecting the true Science of our being..is our mortal*-ignorance..of Spirit, - ignorance..which yields..only to the understanding of divine...as if that of Science,the understanding..by which*..we enter into the kingdom of Truth on earth..

and learn that Spirit..is infinite and supreme.
to all spiritual or material..

Spirit and matter no more co-mmingle than light and darkness.
When one appears,..the other dis-appears.

God and His image

Error presupposes man..to be both mind*..and matter.

Divine Science contradicts the corporeal senses,
rebukes..mortal belief,..and asks:..What is the Ego,

281-10 whence its origin and what its destiny?

The Ego-of man,..is the reflection of the of the Ego-God;

the Ego-man..is the image and likeness
of perfect Mind, Spirit, divine-Principle.
[love grace mercy..etc]..life not death..

281-14 The one Ego,..the one Mind..or Spirit called God,
is..cause of..*infinite individuality,
which supplies all form and come-liness

and which reflects reality..and divinity
in individual spiritual man..and from within all manner of things.

281-18 18 The mind supposed*..to exist in matter..or beneath a..skull bone..but this..is a myth,..a misconceived..*sense and false...a miss-conception..as to both man..and Mind..of man.

When we put off the false sense..for that we chose to see as the true,..and see that sin and mortality...have neither*..Principle nor permanency,..we shall learn...that sin and mortality..are without actual origin or rightful existence.[in and of themselves]

They are native nothingness,..out of which error would simulate creation..through a man...materially mearly formed from..*dust.

the inanimate...[life can ONLY come from life...!]

The true new idea
281-27 27

Divine Science..does not put new wine into old bottles,
281-28 Soul into matter.. nor the infinite into the finite.

Our...materialistic..false views of matter..*perish as we grasp..the eternal..facts..of Spirit.

The old belief must be...*cast out..
or the new idea..will be spilled,..and the in-spiration,..which is..*to change*..our materialistic..self-ish..standpoint,..will be lost.

Now,..as of the days of old,..
Truth casts out evils..and heals the sick...

it need only be as simple as jesus informed
thy own faith has healed...you..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 November 2010 3:25:59 PM
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