only bad can come from bad..only good from god.

In the same interview, Fr. Martin..also said with respect to Lucia that, "They've..(The Vatican)..published forged letters in her name; they've made her say things she didn't want to say...They put statements on her lips she never made."

it should be sufficient..for all Christians to know this much
It is dangerous to want to satisfy one's curiosity..only,if..one is convinced that we can do nothing against a catastrophe..that has been predicted."

He held up his rosary..and stated..
"Here is the remedy against this evil.

Pray,..pray and ask for nothing else...
Put everything in the hands of God."

Asked what would happen in the Church,..he said: "We must be prepared to undergo great trials..in the not-too-distant future;..trials that will require us to be ready to give up even our lives,..and a total gift of self..to Christ and for good.

Through your prayers and mine,..it is possible to alleviate this tribulation,..but it is no longer possible to avert it,..because it is only in this way that the Church can be effectively renewed.

We must be strong,..we must prepare ourselves,
we must entrust ourselves to Christ..and to His holy Mother,
and we..*must be *attentive,..very*attentive,..to the prayer of the Rosary."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary

[remember evil attacks the root of good...change one word..you change its whole meaning]

The Rosary..(from Latin rosarium,..meaning "rose garden")..or "garland of roses"..is a popular and traditional Catholic devotion.

The term denotes the prayer beads used to count
the series of prayers that make up the rosary.

The prayers consist of repeated sequences of the Lord's Prayer followed by ten prayings of the Hail Mary and a single praying of "Glory Be to the Father" and is sometimes accompanied by the Fatima Prayer;

A sign of the cross on the Crucifix and then the Apostles' Creed;
An Our Father on the first large bead;
A Hail Mary on each of the three small beads with the following intentions (the theological virtues):
For the increase of faith
For the increase of hope
For the increase of charity
A Glory Be to the Father;
Announce the myster

An "Our Father" on the large bead
A "Hail Mary" on each of the adjacent ten small beads;
A "Glory Be to the Father";
All praise and all thanksgiving be every moment thine...


Again..an Our Father on the next large bead,
followed by ten Hail Marys on the small beads,..the Glory Be to the Father,

(and Fatima Prayer, cf. below)..for each of the following decades;

each of these sequences..is known as a decade.

The praying of each decade is accompanied by meditation
on one of the Mysteries of the Rosary,..which recall..the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

Praying the rosary may be prescribed by priests as a form of penance after confession. Penance in this form is not generally intended as a "punishment"; rather, it is meant to encourage reflection upon and spiritual growth from past sins

The traditional 15 Mysteries of the Rosary were standardized,

the sorrowful mysteries,
and the glorious mysteries.

Glorious Mysteries
The Resurrection...Fruit of the Mystery:.Faith
The Ascension...Fruit of the Mystery:..Hope and desire for ascension to Heaven
The Descent of the Holy Spirit...Fruit of the Mystery:.Holy Wisdom to know the truth and share with everyone, Divine Charity, Worship of the Holy Spirit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatima_Prayer

In 2002, Pope John Paul II announced five new optional mysteries,
the luminous mysteries, bringing the total number of mysteries to 20.

Luminous Mysteries
Fruit of the Mystery:..Openness to the Holy Spirit-the Healer.
The understanding of..the ability to manifest-through faith.

Jesus' Proclamation of the Kingdom of God.
Fruit of the Mystery: Trust in God (Call of Conversion to Messiah-ship)

The Transfiguration. Fruit of the Mystery: Desire for Holiness


Hail Mary, full of grace,..the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,..and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,..Jesus.


O Lord,..open my lips.
And my mouth will proclaim your praise.
Incline your aid to me, O God.
O Lord, make haste to help me.

In the name of the Father,
and of the Son,..and of the Holy Spirit...[with-in....us all].. Amen.

it would be remiss of me to not include the...'other'..spirits..in this discource...so saying lets delve into the realm..of spirits..of the four elementals...as well as..the four other/realms of life

firstly..a quick wisdom..from a tree-spirit...

’There is..but one God,..yet he works*..through many gods..and spirits..and men..and animals.

He shows..His power..and His majesty
in all that is*..or was*..or shall be*.

For all that was is*,..and all that shall be*..was,..and..*in Him all
things are.’

next lets enter..the realm..of earth/air..wind..and fire-spirit
[who witness/records...chists crucifiction]

"R.L.W...’Sire,..who are you,..and these beautiful fairy/folk..I’ve seen in this city,..and how is it..they dwell..in the seventh division..of the astral plane?’

"The king answered,..’Long ago..I was one of the fairy folk,..such as those you have just left,..and so were..*we all.

I dwelt in a castle,..and did deeds of glamour,..and hoped that a mortal-dreamer..[poet]..would one day proclaim them..to the world...[in his word]

But..one day I fell into a strange trance..and..*dreamed of earth..and the sufferings of mortals,..and their follies,..and I saw how foolish*..were their griefs,..*and how easy it would be to relieve them.

"’And when I awoke,..I pondered over these things,..and it grew upon me..*that the life..*I lived..was aimless and empty,..since it was but glamour,..and there was..*neither real sorrow..nor true-sin,..but only make-believe.

For evil..was only potential,..but there..{here}..it was real.

Here..[there}..the triumph of the good knight..was always*..assured,..but there{here}..it was uncertain.

"’Then I set out..towards the confines of Fairyland,
and turned my back..on the pleasant vales.

I journeyed through the dark woods,..and came at last..to the cave where the gnomes dwell...These would have bidden me stay,..but I heeded them not,

and at length..I came out..into the astral_plane,[of which you know.]

But lower..and lower I went,..*seeking true/sin..and..real-suffering,..just as you men folk..flee from them,..and on the astral plane I worked..for a while;..but as I knew*not earth life,..I found my efforts..of little avail.

"’So at length..I reached the earth-plane,..and wandered..*unseen..among the sons of men..till the sorrow of the world..*ate..into my soul..and grief..*for its woe..overwhelmed me...

..’Yet try as I would,..I found..*I could do little..to help mankind,..for I was not*..of their nature.

Till..one dread day..I stood on a hill..near a city..men call Jerusalem..and I gazed in the faces of..three who were crucified.

Then He..in the centre..saw me,..though the rest saw me not,
and He/..spoke these words:

’’’O spirit of air,..who knowest not the love of man,..draw near."

’And I drew near,..and said,.."I have sought suffering..and grief that I might be able..to aid men-folk...Thou,..who seemest to be the King of Pain,..*bring pain..*to me."

"’And He smiled..."Thou hast asked..a hard thing,
yet shall it be given..unto thee.

Wrench forth/the nails..which fasten My hands and feet,..and set Me free."

’Then I arose..and strove to grasp the nails,..but couldn’t,
for they were material,..and I*..immaterial...And as I strove my utter helplessness filled me..with a new sensation,..and it was
grief.

For,..strive as I might,..I could do
nothing to help..that gentle sufferer.

" ’And the grief..grew to an intensity of pain..which is indescribable.

"’Then again He spoke..."It avails not,..thou canst not help Me,..and yet*..in the striving thy request*..has been granted..Go, and My love for man go with thee.

"..’Then the vague desire to help man grew into a burning passion, and I went from the spot
and strove to help them...And now it seemed that I was changed in spirit,..or I comprehended
their griefs and also how to help them.

’So I comforted the heavy-hearted..in the dark watches of the night, and I guided the erring
ones into the safe road. I strove with the wayward, and warned the foolish till my work was..accomplished.

Then I came back..to the fairy folk,..and told them..*what had befallen me,..and many others,..following my example,..went forth likewise to earth,..

and some there be..who are even now labouring,..and others there are..who rest..from their labours with me..in this fair city,..

and yet others..there are who are here..and have passed on-to..the spirit plane,..for there are many roads,..and the same path..is not used by all

the same path..is not used by all.

Yet it seems to me that though
for us the life on earth..will not be needful*,
it will yet be necessary..for us to dwell..on one of the
less material planets,..for though I have learnt to suffer,..yet have I never learnt to die,..

and I think..*none can become perfect..
till that experience*..has been endured.’

"He paused for a moment,..and then continued:

’I am wise,..wiser perhaps than men folk,..and the lore of this realm..is an open book to me,..and if it were..*for thy good,..I would gladly reveal..to thee much wisdom.

As, indeed, I have done when on eart.. but the simpler lessons are for
thee,..my son,..and enough has been said already for,..of even that which I have told thee,..much will appear a mystery;

Only remember..that without suffering..there is no completion of
soul*..and without love..*there is no peace.’

"Then his fair queen spoke,..and what she told me corresponded very closely with what the..king had said.

In one point,..however,..it differed strikingly,
for she learnt suffering..through the anguish of a woman

whose love..{for a king}..who..forsook her...{love/peace}..
for another*...[you you silly man]..even the fairies..have lessons..as well as teachings...

fables can reach even the hard-hearts..of kings
how dare we judge..the most affective means..to good
[in the end..we each get it}

some via parrable..
others by life experience,[works]..others by words
and some just never get it..

get it?

no, i don't 'get it'

UOG: What is the use of you "joining the dots" of facts? you are analyzing facts that was known a century ago. Why are you obsessed with this? Save yourself before you try to save others. If you continue, you know what will happen.. same as what happened with the other one.

Wake up and smell the roses mate