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The Forum > General Discussion > New Liberal Leader . . . . . bye bye Tony Abbott.

New Liberal Leader . . . . . bye bye Tony Abbott.

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Benj, in normal circumstances I would agree with you, however, the so called 'deal' with the miners has only been met with the largest three, all of which I think are majority OS owned conglomorates.

So, given the fact that there are some 90 plus smaller miners, that have not been considered in this new deal, I doubt one can call this a victory.

Then there are the list of failures, most of which madam PM was at the forefront of descision making team for, solar, insulation, education, all of which have the potential to cost the tax payers (voters) billions.

Then of cause we have the gays and the churchies she has already upset.

So I feel it's a little to early to start crowing just yet cause there is plently of mud throwing in front of the election.

Finally, the voting public are fully aware that one hot day doesn't make a summer and, that Madam PM is clearly trying to 'get her ducks in a row' in readiness for an upcomming election, which of cause, she is unable to call yet as she doesn't yet have enough runs on the board.

You really must think the voting public are easily led. Or should that be, 'mis-led'!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 4 July 2010 5:38:28 PM
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I've just been given a glimpse of the latest
add that the Liberal Party is
going to display against Labor - on TV.

To me it illustrates the old adage,
"Stupidity is better kept a secret than
displayed."

The advertisement smacks of a Party that
is grabbing at straws when it has nothing else
to offer. It reeks of desperation. And it
will definitely backfire against the Liberal Party.
Voters don't like dirty tactics of this kind, and
are not that easily led. And this add definitely
has "gutter tactics" written all over it.

Sympathy will go to Labor. Stupid, stupid, move
by Tony Abbott and Co.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 4 July 2010 6:25:11 PM
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I think Gillard will go to an early election as the world economy will only get worse.I'm going to look for a good independant to vote for.The Global banksters are bringing in severe austerity measures to make us pay for their phoney money and derivatives.

Both the major parties do the bidding of the large Corporates.They have sold this country out.Even the Greens have sold themselves to the highest bidder.

So don't vote for either of them.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 4 July 2010 10:10:54 PM
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Arjay, you can't vote for an independent without your vote ending up counting for one of the two big bozos, such is the wonder of our totally antidemocratic compulsory preferential system.

If you vote for an independent, the important thing you need to do is decide which of the major parties you put last and second last, as your vote will filter down and end up counting for the one you put second last, unless of course you vote for no one and put in a null vote.

<<Both the major parties do the bidding of the large Corporates.They have sold this country out.>>

YEP

<<So don't vote for either of them>>

Which means not voting for anyone, unless some other candidate is purported to have a genuine chance of winning, which in the vast majority of seats is not going to happen.
Posted by Ludwig, Sunday, 4 July 2010 10:25:15 PM
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Rehctub, yes the deal is with the 3 big miners. These miners DOMINATE and CONTROL the industry. The small time miners do what they're told and almost always follow the leaders. Why? Because history shows they profit by doing so. As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow morning, almost ALL the small miners will come aboard........after doing the "obligatory" whinging for a short time. Mr Abbott is ALONE on the issue. This is why he's the KISS OF DEATH for the Liberals at the upcoming election. This is why he'll be suddenly replaced. The Liberals, being just as unprincipled as Labor, will do ANYTHING to avoid voter damage .......... so welcome aboard Mr Hockey. Enjoy your time as leader, it won't last long.

Arjay, the world's economy will only get BETTER, not worse! Debt, BIG debt, is NOT a problem. It only becomes a problem if it can NEVER be paid back. The world is VERY aware of this fact these days, and any problems are nipped in the bud. This causes "temporary" setbacks to recovery, setbacks that last about a month or so, then recovery continues along it's merry way till the next setback. **THAT'S** how recovery works when it's well managed. In several years time we will be in the middle of another lengthy BOOM! And I bet the current mob of doomsday merchants are now eagerly setting up their investments with glee. Why? It's to their advantage to talk down the economy, grab early opportunity, and reap the resulting massive rewards they know are coming. The doomsday merchants have about as much integrity as the average politician! But they're not stupid. They invest in bad times, and sell in boom times, which is the EXACT OPPOSTIE of what laypeople do. The unaware general public invests in boom times and sells in gloom times ...... that's a recipe for personal financial disaster.
Posted by benq, Sunday, 4 July 2010 10:39:43 PM
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I ask this question what is an election for?
What ten things are highest on your list of wanted outcomes.
Those like Arjay seem to want anarchy.
King Hazza a greens government.
The out come of this election will be important for most of us.
Few will get everything they want from the results.
But most, more than 50%will get the best outcome possible.
Now boat people, yes think about it, why will JG change the current laws.
Can it be good intentions and all, more want to control our doorway than not.
That more votes are lost by arrivals than won by stopping them.
The idea that Julia is changing policy's only to win votes is spin, bought on by conservative fear, just maybe she is doing what won Howard elections.
Julia will not shut our boarders, she may control what she can.
The anti politician spin we Aussies love to throw is funny.
Tell me of one lawyer car sales man real estate sales man, even look into your mirror, we all carry the same self interest within us.
Abbott is as bad as any in recent history, and about to become history.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 5 July 2010 5:42:22 AM
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