Protagoras
The fighting is very diferent from the hating!
With the fighting we have a chance to win to make the necessary
You can pass your meseges much easier if you speak for specific problems and MOST IMPORTANT if you suggest the right solusions! It means first detect a sharp, wide social problem, analyze and find solusions of the problem, You must always have in your mind that in your solusion must compine the maximum benefits to the minimum cost! People want the mostbenefits but they are not ready to pay any cost!
Politicians prefer to promise many, give litle and all these for no cost on the voters! They transfer the problems to the next generations!
If you have money and good relations with the mass media then you have good chances to make the black ,white win votes!
You can not change anything if you are not at least a senator and the governing part needs your vote!
Hoooohhhhh you must to learn the very basics.
Migrants, women and older people can sent you to the parliament!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

My dear Ant

Two of my immediate family members became honourable members of parliament. The last one, I sent on a mission - to fix the bastards. Prior to that, I handed out how to vote cards, nailed flyers to shop windows, went doorknocking for months, engaged in endless meetings, lunches and dinners, cooked breakfast for the crew at 4am on election day, rushed to the polling booth to grab the most prominent ground position and joyfully imbibed at the victory parties in the evening where everyone wanted to be my friend.

What a waste of time that was!

"Hoooohhhhh Ant, you must to learn the very basics my dear boy."

Protagoras
haaaaa! My friend now is your turn! The problem with MPs and Senators is that most of them are weaks! Their name or their money play the main role for their elections or their relatives like you who worked hard for them. Can you tell me what big fights they gave for people's rights, for women rights, against corruption, against big corporations? Nothing! We forgot what is fight, we forgot what is justice, we forgot our people!
We have problems protagora, our democraticy is weak, the parties are beaurocratic organizations, which care more for their own benefits than to solve people's problems.
The parties lost long time ego their contact with our society, with their voters. The mass media are very strong, they create the public opinion, they control the voters!
People have no chance to change things, from Liberals to Labors, not big difference betewen them, not visible lines between them, no guarding borders between Liberals and ALP.
I trust and support women than men, women are more sensitive, and credible than men, they still feel some respect and some
shame, they stll continue to say the things with their name.
Why madam you did not fight to become MP? I am sure you could be a good one! Why did not you press your relatives to realize their promises?
IF MY FRIEND I WAS IN NSW OR VICTORIA then I will be a candidate for the senate and if elected a HARD ONE, A FIGHTER ONE but in Adelaide there are not many migrants!
Can you be a candidate for MP or senate? DO IT! I am sure you will do more improvments than your relatives!
And never say what you hate, keep it inside, cover it, forget it, until to use it!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Ahhh, one under god old son still at it i see, here's your narcissistic mate Blackwattle back on line.
I read your post and jesus man you go on, so why do we love to hate one another, human nature old chap.
We are still at the stage of our evolution with our knuckles dragging on the ground, we may kid ourselves we are civilised, but as you outlined so elegantly in your subject, it speaks for its self.
Mind you there are millions of wonderful human beings on the planet, we must be fair about this who have risen above their base nature so its all a question of balance.
I assume the name you chose indicates you are one of those wonderful human beings that has been enlightened, therefore you would know under the divine plan everything is as it should be and will work its self out in the end.
So returning to your question, "why do we love to hate one another."
Got me buggered, so i will keep on ducking and weaving.

yeah bw..i know it all works out in the end...but we can take the high road or the low road...depending if we see a new road...or rather the choice of seeing it..remains with us..doing the journey

i just feel..i should be trying to give back..as was fore-given me...we can chose to hang low..as long as we like...but till we learn to see better..we cant chose to do better

hate teaches us..that hate dont work...it is mearly blaming others for things..we hate in ourselves...

i supose i could pretend...go out and ignore the vile...chose to ignore..that we each chose to incarnate at this time..for higher reason...but..can only do as im chosing to do...to stop would make me feel guitly..for not trying harder...

i got a lot of negative karma...that is better balanced here and now...by doing as i hope best serves us each getting the easy pass into the next levels of being...

i wish others had tried harder to wake me up...earelier..so push myself to try harder...but everything in its time...in the end its our own freechoice...im living mine...enjoy that your living yours

you know the wattle is in bloom..[here]...thanks for being more than a name...cheers eh...

Right on Ant – you have your finger on the pulse and yes, you're not the first to suggest that I stand for parliament – heaven forbid. I imagine I would have spent more time out of the House than in it, cooling my heels in the corridors for being in contempt of parliament. Mavericks are out – timidity’s in!

Perhaps I have much to learn, however, I believe democracy is diminished by the present party system whereby, if a politician challenges party policy, the powerful party lobbyists can ensure that he loses pre-selection next time ‘round. Therefore, when a constituency initially votes a candidate into parliament, they are denied the opportunity to vote him in or out, the second time round.

On the other hand, I am reminded of federal politician, Dennis Jensen, member for Tangney WA, who lost pre-selection prior to the 2007 elections. Personally, I was delighted; however, Yellowcake Johnny intervened and overturned the state council’s decision, thus exacerbating this farcical process. As a consequence he was returned to parliament by the constituency but rightly so in my opinion since the decision was made by the constituents and not the party powerbrokers. Of course this democratic process had nothing to do with Yellowcake Johnny's motives!

Last month, Jensen again lost pre-selection however, he ain’t got little Johnny to intervene this time!

Meanwhile, we have politicians interfering with the judicial process, state and federal governments gagging academics, senior bureaucrats ignoring ministerial determinations, senior bureaucrats feeding ignorant ministers spin and politicians gagged by the party hierarchy.

The common public good is constantly neglected by ignorant and greedy governments in favour of done deals but society also has a fundamental duty to ensure that government decisions benefit the masses and not the favoured few.

Alas, the apathy, indifference and/or avarice of society is responsible for the status quo, therefore, we will continue to reap only what we’ve sown.

Now Ant......who else should I place on my Hate list.......hmmmm?