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How to beat Howard and why

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To beat them this is how

You know beating liberal or labor is up to us but that is where your problem is.

As you know all it takes is one person but then its up to you.

Email me at :swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Australian Peoples Party

But there is a problem you wont because you will just keep talking about it.
For one of you to email is a chance but then you have an opinion which can be passed on.
So who will it be.
I myself am as i believe honest so dont give me any bull just say what you think.
And this is what doesnt happen.
Give me a chance.
It is actually good as i have been told
Posted by tapp, Wednesday, 6 December 2006 8:32:35 AM
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Leigh,
Sorry to disappoint, but while I may have utter contempt for the Howard Government, I do not gravitate towards any of the parties. I probably would prefer Peter Costello to Kevin Rudd as Prime Minister.

People really should try expand this two dimensional view of the world, where your either with us or against us.

My position is plane - Howard has betrayed this Nation, its constitution, and its reputation. His Australia is nasty. He has most cynically appealed to the very worst in us to win and retain government.

One example
Last week, during question time in the senate. Senator Stott Despoja (no I am not an Australian Democrat either) asked a question of the government to explain why one of the fellows who inspired the film "road to gauntanamo" was denied a visa to promote the movie now showing in this country.

A normally boysey, brash chamber fell into an embarassed silence before and following the governments' response - " Due to issues of national security we are unable to answer the Senators' question".

Col Rouge
For what its worth, I have a lot of respect for Malcom Fraser.

I think Keating lost because he gave us the recession we had to have. This is of course both true and superficial. The ALP had been in power 13 years. The various leeches which every government will inevitably attract had corrupted the party.

Howard of course is a different beast entirely.
Posted by YEBIGA, Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:59:23 PM
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“Howard has betrayed this Nation, its constitution, and its reputation. His Australia is nasty. He has most cynically appealed to the very worst in us to win and retain government.”

“Betrayal”

Nation – show examples before I answer that.

Constitution – Well again we have not had an event which has produced a constitutional challenge, not even a referendum that I recall.

Reputation – well again, reputations are fleeting things, that we do not kow tow to every foreign government or UN secretary generals prissy expectations of us does our reputation no harm at all. That we place emphasis on holding to a position of reason and logic over Kyoto when the Europeans have already decided how to engineer the process to best suit themselves, regardless of the implications to our economy shows strength and foresight. I note the one time leader of the federal opposition was happy to bare his backside and suggest we do the same to placate the hysteria of global warming fanatics (in Kim case, anything for a vote).

“Nasty” the best thing about this government is they allow us all to decide to be “nasty” or otherwise. They do not force us to be “politically correct”. They do not tax us to make us philanthropic beyond our means. They do not impose collective responsibility on me, forcing me to subsidise the lifestyle of stupid girls who get themselves banged-up or the comforts of the indolent who cannot be bothered to get a job.

The Liberals have run the economy on the lean and prudent manner resulting in people achieving with less government interference.

We do not want a state which is responsible for everything and no one responsible for the state.

Such a scenario is the worst sort of government. That sort practiced in East Germany. The sort which people risked their lives to escape from.

Whilst Whitlam produced the biggest constitutional crisis, Hawke had the charismatic cynicism which you speak of (I recall how he trumped Hayden on the eve of the election) and Keating was "arrogance" personified.
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 7 December 2006 6:44:02 AM
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Col Rouge [= Neck Red]: "“Nasty” the best thing about this government is they allow us all to decide to be “nasty” or otherwise."

I imagine that, on the basis of Col's usually gratuitously vituperous comments in this forum, this would be one of his chief reasons for supporting the lying rodent's government.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 7 December 2006 7:13:36 AM
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CJ Morgan has discovered the word "gratuitous".
Posted by Leigh, Thursday, 7 December 2006 8:13:28 AM
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To beat them this is how

You know beating liberal or labor is up to us but that is where your problem is.

As you know all it takes is one person but then its up to you.

Email me at :swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Australian Peoples Party

But there is a problem you wont because you will just keep talking about it.
For one of you to email is a chance but then you have an opinion which can be passed on.
So who will it be.
I myself am as i believe honest so dont give me any bull just say what you think.
And this is what doesnt happen.
Give me a chance.
It is actually good as i have been told

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Posted by tapp, Thursday, 7 December 2006 10:25:43 AM
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