Labor debacles surround us nearly in every state.Federal Labor has not the talent ,economic nouse or policies to claim leadership in the near future.

Just because there is economic prosperity the weak kneed socialists are crawling out of the woodwork seeking the security of higher taxes for more bloated bureaucracies to ply their trade of experimental social engineering,which have proven to have been the root of their demise time and time again.Now,beginining with Cough Drop who sent us broke during the last resources boom and ending with Placebo Domdingo,alias Paul Bleating,who still cries foul.

The real damage time and time again are proven to be the economic vandals under the helm of "Good Ship Well Intentioned Labor".

That is the reality.

Arjay,

Given that things are as clear as you so eloquently lay them out for us plebs, why then do Labor keep on getting into power, particularly in the State's political elections? (20 in a row for Labor).

Could it possibly be that under Liberal 'leadership' the great economic wealth produced is not only spread unevenly (the minority who take the greatest 'risks' get the greatest share of the spoils) but is not spread as far or as fairly as the Liberal apologists keep shouting from the rooftops and media (to anyone who will listen to the propaganda) it is and the MAJORITY who work hard but dumb fall further behind in the 'shares' of this great democracy realise it's time to even up the 'balance' a little in their favour?

Or am I just bleating for my undeserved share of all this vast wealth Howard/Costello keep trying to make me believe I already have a share in? (while Qantas execs are simply 'given' $100 million worth of shares because their company is no longer going to be publically owned while another 3000 Australian jobs are lined up to go offshore).

Mum's and Dad's working more hours than anyone in the OECD countries and still feeling the 'pinch' in their household budgets and national failing of health, education and law will only fall for this line for so long before seeing through it for the bull it is and demanding revolution.

And around the ball rolls again.

And when will you lot realise that labor and liberal are really both the same now.

When will you honestly take on the chalange and change this duopoly that these two share.

When will you stop bleating and stand up and make a real change, but then most dont care they much prefer to winge.

Tapp “And when will you lot realise that labor and liberal are really both the same now.”

Since Hawke started the move west, away from the grand follies of socialism and Blair copied the Australian model to serve up to Britains, the differing national parties have grown closer.

I recall the yawning gulf and near catastrophe of government changes in UK in the late 1970’s / early 1980’s culminating when the tide away from nationalization was threatened with the Foot/Benn plans for nationalization of everything and political cadres in all media offices.

Thank God the UK, in that critical election, chose Thatcher over Foot/Benn and commonsense over disaster.

(At that time the UK socialists suffered the same problem they suffer today in Australia, a party without a leader. Foot was the darling of the left, all grand statements, ideas of the celebration of labour deliverance through toil, the sort of bunkum which makes for grand speeches and starving children, and Benn. Benn, hung up with his guilt fixation on being the foppish son of wealth and privilege and heir to title, who has not done a days real work in his life).

So now we look similar to USA, where the finest of distinctions separate the Republican from the Democrat policies, (something which, from the giant swings in UK political policies, I always considered a bit of an American advantage)

However, there remainings one critical difference, whilst the two major parties express similar policies, the conservatives know how to run the economy and the “remodeled socialists” (as Blair would call them “New Labour”) do not.

Changing policy is one thing, it represents merely plotting the course and the direction of the ship of state. Such fine ideals lead nowhere, if the essential skills in seamanship (the ability to read the weather and tides and understand the basic controls of tiller and motivating forces) remain absent.

For me, a change from conservative prudence would be a change for the worse. Get three socialists together and they sound like a jumbo jet. They whine because they know how to do nothing else

Brain Drain,Labor gets into power because it continually appeals to our human weakness not to achieve,and thus Labor lose power because of high taxes and an under achieving populace which usually ends in recession.We all want to hear the good news of winning the lottery,but few us realise the sheer hard work by individuals that create this surplus that can be taxed and given away.Millions of people in private enterprise work long hard hours and give up up a lot of their personal family time,only to have their endeavours dashed by Public Service incompetence.

With discipline and hard work comes prosperity.With weakness and self indulgence comes decadence and poverty.

Arjay and Col,
Funny how the rich and powerfull seem to ignore the environment and the natural processes in their "disciplined" efforts to gain more prosperity.
Faced with taxes to repair their irresponsible damage they winge and complain and say the opposing Science is suspect .
They are trying to promote unsustainable Economic Growth [even to the point of absolute stupidity ]to line their pockets as quick as they can .
The average "rich" seem to be obsessed with getting richer .
Deepak Chopra observed how unhappy they seemed, for all their wealth, on TV today .