No Col you repeated rumour and inuendo, "Reported" by who? Paul Keating has never commented, his exwife Anita said she did not know.

I repeat John Howard (possible adulterer) has NO morals.

Col: "YEBIGA 'Your so Neitzsche!'

Oh I think you meant “Nietzche”, how Freudian of you."

I think you meant Nietzsche, didn't you? If Yebiga's slip was Freudian, what was yours - 'Pidgeonian'?

How's the glass house faring?

Well, thanks to Col we've all had a bit of light relief!

Is it too much of a stretch of the imagination to suggest that we've all been guilty of not holding entirely to the truth at times? So does that automatically make us all totally untrustworthy? I would suggest of course not.

Like Col, I have had the responsibility of managing commission sales teams. When I was an area manager with an insurance company, back in the 1970s, one of my jobs was to check the sales reports of the individual team members and verify the accuracy thereof. Only once did I find a deliberate attempt to defraud both a client and the company. As far as I was concerned, this was unforgivable and I took the agent concerned to the state manager and suggested he be instantly dismissed [and this is what happened].

But some of the agents, most of whom were married, were a bit flighty with the ladies. Just as long as it didn't involve the company's clients, and their wives and daughters etc, and it didn't become some kind of a scandal in a country town, then I regarded it as none of my business.

One particular member of my team comes to mind. Knowledgeable, capable and as straight as a die on company business. But his indiscretions, which were never business related, were between him and his wife, as far as I was concerned. Not a matter of whether or not I approved, it was simply none of my business.

cont

So who would I have on my hypothetical sales team? I would welcome Bob Hawke, Paul Keating and Bill Clinton. But I wouldn't want John Howard, despite his glib tongue. I think I'd need to spend so much of my time watching him, that I'd never get any work done.

The last time I saw Howard [in the flesh], he was in WA to proudly tell us how much of our money he was using to further hasten the pollution of once beautiful Cockburn Sound, south of Fremantle. As his car slowly drove past, I told him what we thought of him, in a suitably forceful manner. One of my co-protesters thought I was being a bit too forceful, but it was just what the TV people wanted!

Back to business. Maybe Col will tell us which politicians he would be happy to have, or not have, on his sales team.

Yep Rex, I buggered that up good and proper

but as dearest Margaret said “We want a society where people are free to make choices, to make MISTAKES, to be generous and compassionate.”

So I will endeavour to be extra generous and extra compassionate to atone for the mistake.

Re “Maybe Col will tell us which politicians he would be happy to have, or not have, on his sales team.”

I can think of none,

as Churchill said

“When asked to name the chief qualification a politician should have,
"It's the ability to foretell what will happen tomorrow, next month, and next year --- and to explain afterward why it didn't."”

Better just settle for real salespeople

I STILL say.... REX for PM! :)

I appreciate he will not stand for the job and i even have an inkling way down deep that even if he did and got it, after twenty years in politics he would look as bad to me as Howard does now as the job is not one a 'decent' man can stay decent in.

Any argument?