Wendy ..yes I do still want to join PALE..

." Rest assured, it happens all over
country Australia! Shearing teams want meat, thats how they take
their meat home."> A GOOD POINT YABBY AND WHY WE NEED TO CHANGE IT"

"its up to the. owners of scarce ">IF ALL THE ANIMALS ARE GONE THEY HAVE TO CLOSE

"you cannot compel people."> WELL ACTUALLY PEOPLE HAVE! TO WORK>

" Wendy is suggesting
social engineering, that went out 20 years ago."> BULL NOBODY HAS GONE DIRECT TO LIVE IMPORTING TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE FARMER SUPPLYING HIS LIVE ANIMALS AND SUGGESTED THEY UNITE. "Its not the job
of farmers to subsidise anyone."> fARMERS ARE SUBBED BY TAX PAYERS> ALWAYS HAVE BEEN

" If it makes commercial sense
to ship cattle to Indonesia,"> IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR FARMS HERE> THEY WANT TO TAKE HER ANYWAY AND THEY LOVE THE FREE GREEN LEAN FREE RANGE FARM IDEA> rather then put up with unreasonbly
"militant unions in the meat industry, so be it!" NO NOT SO BE IT
FOR ONCE YOU ARE MAKING SENSE> THE UNIONS ARE TO BLAME ALWAYS WERE!

"Australian Govts are free to drop the many taxes and charges that
they impose on the meat processing industry, from payroll taxes
onwards. They haven't done that, so clearly they don't really
care about local processing or keeping it local."

OH MY GOD YABBY FOR ONCE YOU POST THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH> OK WELL THEY HAVE TO DROP SOME TAXES AND WE WILL MAKE THEM!
Yabby
Trouble is Beazly will never be any good while he has Jack Lake as an adviser. We are better off with Simmon. OR John Howard wake up!

And yabby if we Slaughter Here and send Carcuss that makes everybody happy if Australians dont want to work then doesnt it.

I am not stupid enough to compete with overeas wages and anyway maylasia sees itself as the hub of Halal working through jAKIM through to middle East.
that fine.

ozgirl
little buddy
Sorry I am not ignoring you. I get carried away with your mate. yes we would love you onboard[pardon the pun] Seriously we want you to join. Please let me know the best way to contact you/ Or contact us through clicking onto join pale on this link and it brings up the email ok
http://www.livexports.com/.

In the mean time if you can think of what type of thing you would like to be involved in would be good.

We require somebody to try to raise funds for our TV adds regarding Churches. We require Rally organiser. Somebody to help put our Free Range web page together. Its started but!

We have started the first domestic V team working together with RSPCA QLD. Often women wont leave home because they worry for pets. Perhaps that might interest you given your uni study.

We share the same pashion to improve conditions for aboriginal people so you may like to help with Halal global All Kind meats.

Whatever you would like to do we would be happy to have you as a member.

hope to hear from you soon.
Please dont forget to prepair Yabby For his Cruise.

Celivia..youve done an amazing job with this forum..well organised..very well considered and the dedication is a credit to you.

I think we should make time to express more appreciation to pple so that they know they how hard theyre efforts reward so many.

Thank you Celivia..fom Serita.:)

That is so nice of you to say, OZGIRL! Thank you ;)

Every single person without exception who contributed to this discussion, as I said before, has added something valuable!

It is often the case that the most heated discussions cause opinions to become very strongly expressed.

This is where I often appreciate the different viewpoints especially where there is real communication.

Wendy
"The fact that they all get on the anti abortion forum preaching about some thing less than a grain of rice while living feeling animals suffer beyond belief is truely sickening."
Thanks Wendy this is an example to use to show Yabby the other side of his view.

Yabby,
you expressed your opinion about Wendy's uterus and church's involvement in animal welfare.
I have showed my opinion, others have shown theirs, and I tried to look at it from your point of view- just for the discussion's sake (not because I agree).

Now we more or less looked at it from both angles as I briefly addressed and Wendy highlighted the opposite side of your view, can you understand why we find it necessary for the church to be involved in animal welfare, even if you don't agree?

fARMERS ARE SUBBED BY TAX PAYERS> ALWAYS HAVE BEEN

I,m still waiting for my cheque then!