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Sport and sex scandals

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Caveat emptor is an excuse not a justification.
If the woman was 'unstable' then the males who took advantage of this are predators plain and simple. (abuse of power)
And for the religiously inclined Yes we are all our sister's keepers.

Comparative Mitigation argument are bogus as I have pointed out several times. A group of footy boys are just as guilty abusing an awe struck 19 yo girl as 11 yo boys behind the shelter shed abusing a willing 8 yo girl.The rationale is the same 'if you want us to be your friends.....'

The footy club owner on Q&A said that (in his view) racism should be stomped out and miscreants should have cases brought against them. In short it create a bad name and continues unacceptable public behaviour.

What takes place between two consenting adults of equal power in privacy is one thing but what took place in this case was neither.(common unacceptable morality.)

Think about this would you be prepared to support a referendum in favour of footy boys behaviour being legally sanctioned? pigs you would.

Footy ISN'T the issue here IT'S THE PUBLIC BEHAVIOUR that is unpalatable.
Getting so blind drunk one pees their pants common too nor is it illegal but neither is it acceptable behaviour
Posted by examinator, Friday, 29 May 2009 5:06:13 PM
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Bell baby: “I do not, for a second, think anyone has shown anti woman ideas in this thread.”

No, just anti one particular woman so far. Accused of doing it for the compensation, attention, cause she is mental blah blah.

“over and again females and some who blindly follow have refused to look at the victim.”

Victim? Maybe, probably, unproven though as I was told.

“to ask did she bring this on herself by her actions.”

Definitely, doesn’t make it right though.

“in fact in another thread I highlighted some who cry racist may well be the one in the wrong.”

Yes – if they are wrong. If yelling it at a white Australian they’re probably on the money.

“SOME never see anything a woman does as wrong, and devalue their thoughts by blindly blaming men for bias that is not there.”

My son erred once, called his girlfriend a bad name at a party, his little sister launched and if several males hadn’t held her back she would have done her best to knock him out. Females should protect females. That was nothing, I found out the next day and boy did he learn about name calling. All females should protect all females.

“If the woman was 'unstable' then the males who took advantage of this are predators plain and simple. (abuse of power)”

Bunch of knuckle heads like that wouldn’t own the same blame as say an overseas conference of psychiatrists though aye Examinator. That’s why their bosses should have watched them closer.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 29 May 2009 8:46:15 PM
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examinator:"Think about this would you be prepared to support a referendum in favour of footy boys behaviour being legally sanctioned?"

It's already legally sanctioned.

examinator:"THE PUBLIC BEHAVIOUR"

Add another one to the New Wowsers membership roll.

Would some feminist please point out to examinator that 8 yo girls and 11yo boys are "children", while 19 yo women are "adults"? Thanks for your assistance.

Whilst doing so, would you also point out that "caveat emptor" is one of the basic principles that underlie our system of commerce and that it could not operate otherwise? Thanks again, I know he wouldn't listen to me.

Jewely, the woman participated willingly, therefore if anyone had intervened (including "all women looking out for all women", they'd have been intruding on her private business. As for your gleeful recounting of your daughter's attempted assault on your son, simply because he said something she didn't like, how would you feel if your son had hauled off and hit your daughter fir a similar reason? ISTM that you think it's fine for women to hit men, but the man must never respond.

As for psychiatrists, we have no information about her condition other than what she claims. The fact that she regrets her actions in taking part is no reason to blame the other participants. Do we blame the other runners if someone falls during a race?

All of this toing and froing comes down to some women wanting to have the freedom to make their own decisions, getting all the benefits if they work out while being absolved from any negative consequences. My 12 year-old daughter is going through that stage at the moment, as is normal for a child of that age. Sadly, some women never mature beyond it.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 30 May 2009 5:34:12 AM
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jewely I read your posts all of them.
But grow weary of your tales about a hard nut daughter.
And we are slipping a long way from reality in this thread.
how did racism get a run?
And what has your daughter and sons fight got to do with this event?
Lets ask why we suddenly want to make untrue claims like rape, but not to get into the fact sex is the driving force, and our personal boundrys are not enforceable, others will have their own rules.
Now jewely you say if people are calling white Australians racist they are likely to be right?
you believe that?
true?
my point about the other thread is true, miss use of the term racist is..........racism.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 May 2009 6:42:16 AM
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Anti: “As for your gleeful recounting of your daughter's attempted assault on your son, simply because he said something she didn't like, how would you feel if your son had hauled off and hit your daughter fir a similar reason? ISTM that you think it's fine for women to hit men, but the man must never respond.”

I think because they never used to have any fights growing up close in age that something happened after moving here or they got to a certain phase in their teens where male and female rolls become more defined. She didn’t hit him though but her reaction was enough and from all accounts he never used that word again and is still with the same girl.

“jewely I read your posts all of them.
But grow weary of your tales about a hard nut daughter.”

Sorry Belly,Yes I guess it’s boring, but I don’t get out a lot. I will stop bleating about her.

“And we are slipping a long way from reality in this thread. how did racism get a run?”

Dunno. I think you bought it up.

“And what has your daughter and sons fight got to do with this event?”

Females protecting females. Actually anyone defending what is right; not their own pack.

“Now jewely you say if people are calling white Australians racist they are likely to be right?”

Only based on every white Australian I have gotten to know so far. I’m not saying I don’t like them, but does seem to be a local trait.
“ miss use of the term racist is..........racism.”

What if it isn’t misused.
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 30 May 2009 7:51:25 AM
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jewely read the last ten posts, you will find it was not me who used racism in reference to this thread.
I did report on another thread and compared it with this one, wanting to highlight my view claims are often made without substance.
Well forever an Aussie I will not say we are not racist, some are.
Want to compare NZ?
No not worth it.
Wrong direction serves no purpose but if any one wanted to make a case, like yours about racism he/she could do it.
it need not be true but it happens daily.
We should not lightly use such a term, true racism is evil wrong and evil.
miss use of the term is a sign of a small under developed mind.
Still amused that some think no woman in the world could be wrong in matters of sex.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 May 2009 4:15:46 PM
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