*And I have rarely seen a thread PALE did not try to introduce its pet issue into.*

Belly
We were speaking of the State Governments approval of keeping chickens. Allowing them to be dropped into fires and tossed into boling water alive. State and Federal. Thats not a pet issue. It should be a number one issue for any decent member of public and

*its happening under DPI Labour Government!*

Foxy the tiolet reference I assume was directed to us ?
If so the truth is staff- All staff used to be given injections against such disease. I dont know what happend to that. Your attacking people is is only for those who didnt support your ALP stand-
Belly
Being bullied at work is one such thread I was refering to.
kids being bullied at School is a problem but asking people do their boses bully them is an looking for false complaints.
Adults are free to leave and work elsewhere. Kids on the other hand at school need help.
Another thing. Every single time anybody asks a sensible question we have damage control with silly little posts. I get it that you dont understand the questions.

This is the scary part about some. Really Scary. Ok Foxy you write to the PM about live exports. Good thats more than some. If you really think the bullys at the office are more important than doing more thats your business.

PS
Foxy I thought the reference and personal attack made directed towards the gentlemans mother was a discrace. Funny how you only worry about those posting with the same views as you.
Just because he was supporting the lib team that didnt matter.
The comments were outragous regardless of whom he was supporting ALP or lib.
So much for your justise belly You also said NOTHING

MEMBERSHIP of Queensland trade unions has surged as workers turn to them for protection in the face of looming job losses and uncertainty.

Gee wizz CJ, I hope this didn't come as a surprise to you.

He said membership had increased by 850 in the past three months. WOW! I would never have guessed that.

"We're finding a lot of new members are seeking the protection of their current entitlements and pay,

Little wonder as these pay rates were obtained during the largest supply V demand numbers in recent history. They held many employers at knife point... becasue they could!

So now that demand has dropped they are not willing to give a bit back hey! Typicle one eyed unionist approach. Take what you can in the good times and give nothing back in the bad times! What a joke!

From the tenor of the anti-worker claptrap being peddled here by rehctub and PALE&IF, it looks like those workers who are joining unions of late are being very prudent.

And the unions are laughing all the way to the bank you fools!

They just can't wait till the strikes happen. They will be on tripple pay while the workers will be singing for thier supper as most of them HAVE NOT SAVED ONE CENT OF THIER RECENT WINFALLS!

You lot deserve each other.

Thanks for the entertainment UNDERBELLYS!

Examinator “No surprise about Col's origins just contempt for his attitude.”

I consider whines of “contempt” from a sniveling weasel like you, who tries sneak attacks upon me, whilst claiming the opposite
A mark of success.

Never forget, I never forget - Just ask dickie.

Nicky “but if Margaret Thatcher was that great, and the UK system likewise, may I ask why you are here?”

I chose to come to Australia about 6 years before Margaret Thatcher came to lead the conservative party
My reasons
Regardless of the politics,
the UK, a small collection of resource depleted islands housing 60+ million, has a disadvantage compared to Australia, resources rich and population 20 million
not all things about the UK were to my liking… societal conformity, historic socialist intervention, repressed expectations.
I figured, I owed it to my children to improve their options, as well as my own and they agree with me and thank me.
I had family already settled in Australia.
I considered Australia, relative to many other migrant destinations and it won.
Regarding the politics…

Margaret Thatcher did not destroy the efforts of those who feel compelled to regulate individuals social conscience.
She did many things to force the historic incompetence of nationalised industries to face real life, instead of suck the life blood out of consumers. When she broke the railway monopoly, my travel costs into London dropped but two thirds over night… the railways had been screwing commuters and getting fat through their monopoly.

She allowed sitting tenants to buy the houses they were renting from councils, allowing them to enjoy better security and property owner benefits whilst liquidating the huge sums invested by councils in housing stock.

She introduced comprehensive education when she was education and science minister.

She renegotiated the disastrous terms for UK entry to European Union, from those previously accepted by the her feeble, socialist opponents and those changes still materially benefit the Brown government and the British people today.

Her contribution might be maligned by malcontents but reality

Her strength and leadership changed British “ATTITUDES” and values for the better

Rehctub, are you able to provide evidence that, during the fluctuation in the supply vs demand equation, there was an increase in award rates, or any AWAs that provided for anything much over the awards?

Belly has been quite right in his assertions throughout, PPE is a requirement of legislation, and has more to do with the risk management policies in favour of the business sector than it ever had to do with union demands. The fact that you provide well for your staff does not mean that every employer does, however.

And one cannot be vaccinated for all strains of hepatitis. Is PALE saying that workers in high risk environments should pay for vaccinations such as hepatitis, Q-fever and other diseases specific to certain environments? And I think that the only people who would even suggest that workplace bullying and harassment is not alive and well would be people who have not worked in years (or are the bullies themselves). It is simply that these days, there are ways of addressing it, but not nearly enough. And that has been driven more be legislation than by unions too.

Foxy, it seems that your priorities are out of order, in PALE's view. PALE also apparently believes that issues are mutually exclusive - that if you care about one issue, then you do not care about another.

But there is a reason we have specific threads on specific topics. Intensive farming has nothing to do with the Liberal Party or the financial bailout, and if it is to be discussed then a separate thread should be started, before this one drifts into the PALE agenda (again).

Nicky.

rechtub again you surprise me, are you out to become one of the insult using posters?
Can you justify calling me and others underbelly? is that the best you can do?
The insults being thrown around are not proof of great wit, but a failure to express one self in terms that do not belong in a drunken brawl.
Your self assurance bloke is miss placed, you undervalue others so defeat your self twice.
YOU asked me to get back to the thread.
Yet went straight back to your hobby horse, on the surface you seem to intensely dislike workers, who then buys your snags?, keep your thumb of those scales mate!
Nicky I understand please know I do, but you are wasting your time, I truly have wasted enough, it is best to ignore it really is
regards

*But there is a reason we have specific threads on specific topics. Intensive farming has nothing to do with the Liberal Party or the financial bailout,*

It yes everything to do with it. The money should be spent of plants and infalstructure. Thats whats dragged our country to its knees sending our raw material off before vaule adding.

The funds are 'supposed to put jobs back in Australia. Not for Rudd to bail out the State Hospitals and Schools. Of course! that what hes doing. Even he is ashamed. Hospitals must be fixed I agree.
After that to improve our Animal Welfare and open up value adding plants should be second on the list. That will pay for our schools very quickly.
Both ALP and libs are just as guilty when it comes to this.

When I get a moment I will explain to you why the funds must be spent in the areas in which I raised...
Belly may I remind you and please take note Forrest of our complaint last year that pale had commented on the thread Rudd Trade and China.

Just as Nicky has you made a bit of a fool of yourself by rushing in to complain.

Belly Live Exports Trade and Rudd were more to do with that thread than anything you posted.

rechtub might be able to explain it to you both. .
If not I will pop back later