Foxy Mandy and Christian would be older than me now anything younger on offer?
Col highest regards, seems you are an English man?
May explain the complaining but the endless insults?
PALE, no sorry I back out with this quote from memory of the occupational health and safety laws of NSW Work cover.
When PPE, personal protective equipment is being used on site.
The employer SHALL provide it free of change.
This may include protection from heat or cold sunscreen and what ever is deemed to be needed.
On every entry to a construction site, every site, a sign is on display.
It shows a head and shoulder view of a man, tells you that you MUST have as PPE hard hat, boots steel toe capped, glasses long pants, long sleeved shirt, high visibility clothing covering 80% of the visible torso.
However I am heartened, always, by people who get stuck into unions displaying near total lack of knowledge of the subject
regards PALE.
OH PS BOSS Trucks in the water in hired licensed water trucks, gloves? PPE!

Dear Belly,

The Mandy and Christine ditty was directed at CJ -
not liking Maggie Thatcher - so I tried to stick
with that age group.

But for you Belly, of course I'll come up with
something younger - just give me a day or so... :)

Foxy,

I always thought the rhyme went:

"Half a packet of Mandy Rice,
half a pound of Keiler.
Put 'em together and what do you get?
Two sexy sheilas!"

What's your reference? Memory, hard copy, or a link?

I'm quite prepared to defer to your recollection, as you were right about Lester Moore some while back. I had said ".... Four shots from a .44", whereas your quotation of it was ".... Four slugs from a .44". The instant I saw it I knew you had quoted it correctly. My mind must have been elsewhere at the time - probably on the duelling ground.

The Profumo Affair rhyme brought to mind a pithy observation from around that time (and one currently sadly topical), I think as a caption of a cartoon: "Profumo ergo ignio"; Smoke, therefore fire.

BTW, speaking of Fractelle (which we weren't), an explanation for her non-posting, other than a 'worst case' scenario of having been burned out, could well be that electricity supplies to her Yarra Ranges abode may have been seriously disrupted. That could mean no computer, as she has said her machine was an older one, probably not a laptop. Be like Brian, Foxy, and always look on the bright side of life.

Belly
I tend to agree with you not every unionist as a communist or extremist bludger unionists come is flavours from the sublime to the ridiculous as in every other form of individuals. Only fools and axe grinders lump all as one amorphous indivisible lump.
The laws are there to protect life and limb. If a business can't afford to supply a safe working place it can't afford to be in business.

I do love a good missionary from the master race (English).
They come here and wax lyrical about the country they left and try to make here in the same image. Isn't that what the 18th, 19th & 20th century missionaries did and that was a blinding failure we're still picking up the pieces today i.e. the aboriginals’ plight. But I’m sure the latter-day missionaries have sensitive and meaningful suggestions on that front. After all look at their (less than )Glorious PAST.
Have the anglophiles aka Liberals lost the plot You Bet.

Did they ever have the plot?
Even today the odd English Missionary comes here and deems to tell us how good the old country is/was with tales of long forgotten irrelevant British heroes/heroines.

We hear about Winny and how brilliant he was for England, perhaps. He was the architect and advocate for the Dardanelles strategy In WW1 ….Gallipoli successful effort? Then as PM in WW2 he wanted to defend mother England first and Australia…oh well, maybe later.
Mind you Menzies (liberal Iconic PM) wanted to be PM of England. Fortunately the Labor PM didn’t agree. Then “all the way with LBJ” another sad war loss. Liberals last offering Howard (a royalist and Menzies devotee) Yet another pointless war.

Now the missionaries offer the Baroness Thatcher as a shining example … of what?
As I’ve said before No university teaches or advocates her utterances/policies, why? Perhaps because none of her economic ideology were actually hers they were regurgitated from 60/70’s extremist economic *Theory*.
And then there was that land slide. English pride if nothing else is reactionary and anachronistic. Yes folks the landslide was motivated by the Falklands war.

Having lost their empire and arguably helping to screw up the Middle East along the way, the Brits pride was miffed at a challenge for few wind swept islands at the end of the earth. Total population less than 200 people. Commonsense could have repatriated the islanders to Britain and bought them small holdings like Kent (well a goodly slab of it) for less and no loss of life.

So how many died in the name of British pride? Look it up. How much was spent on the war? How much has/does it cost to maintain those god forsaken islands since that time, with its war ships, garrison and infrastructure? Couldn’t Britain use that wasted money now? To fix another screw up… their economy.
At best she was a transitory character in 1980’s context but from historic perspective just another self serving politician. One can ask we should follow their lead why?

Gracious is it 2009 already how time flies
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Everybody bar rstuart is missing the point the IMF, known for advising for low-taxes and against pork-barrelling, auggests large stimulus packages to get money pumping through the economy. In fact, they've made the point that delays in these stimulus packages are causing damage.

If you look at the background of the IMF, you see how different this advice is to their typical agenda.

Col, you asked why I think Howard would be doing what Rudd's doing, and said my claims were pure speculation.

To an extent, that's all such a claim as mine or yours can be, but I can persuasively argue that your claim is by far the more ridiculous.

People, allow me to make this clear: THE IMF, THE WORLD AUTHORITY ON MONETARY POLICY IS ADVISING THIS ON A FAR LARGER SCALE THAN WHAT RUDD IS DOING, and THE IMF IS KNOWN FOR BEING STINGY ON HANDOUTS!

Apologies for the capitals, but many of you aren't getting this, nor are you rebutting this, the very heart of this debate.

Howard would be the same:
1) Howard was no stranger to middle class welfare. It blew out under his regime.
2) Howard would no more buck the IMF then give the Queen the finger. His success is due to mirroring IMF advice.
3) To pretend he wouldn't do what every other government, conservative or liberal, is doing, is idiocy. When the economy tanked, he'd be crucified for doing nothing.

The crucial aspect of this IMF advice is the economy needs funds to continue spending ASAP.
Infrastructure results in slow spending. Rudd's foreshadowed large public works projects, but these wouldn't provide the initial spending boost. Again, IMF advice.
Remember, that Rudd is spending far less than the majority of western governments. In relative global terms, he's hardly the drunken spending 'socialist' he's being portrayed as. That notion is idiotic when looked at in context of the IMF prescription.

Honestly. This stimulus package is small when looked at globally, and ask yourself if we're so special that economic advice would be entirely different for our nation than everywhere else.