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Have the Libs. lost the plot?

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I am not aware of any socialist politicians in Australia. I also dislike the mentality of those who would 'sponge' off society.

How many CEOs and major executives have accepted millions in salary, bonuses, payouts despite a downturn in the share price, who have presided over the sacking of staff in the interest of their careers, who have pushed jobs offshore,who embraced Work Choices so they could sup at the table more and who have reduced 'real' services. And are quite willing to take money from the public purse as a result of shoddy economic and business practices.

Why do we perceive those on pensions or benefits in such an undeserving light compared to those at the big end of town? Corporate welfare and middle class welfare is deemed essential to our economy but those who are disabled, caring for the disabled, unemployed are viewed as pariahs of society and barely survive on the meagre pensions they qualify for. In my role I see too many fall through the net.

I hope Obama's push to cap executive salaries of those companies who are accepting corporate welfare payments is successful but I doubt it. There are too many with their hands in the communal trough from both government and private interest groups.

The greatest lesson (from my view anyway) is that for others to live better and in the interests of sustainability, we need to be willing to reduce our own standard of living. We have to change the definition of the world 'efficiency' in the prevailing mindset. Efficiency should reflect quality in the service or product rather than in the share price. In a non-competitive market that we have created through monopolies, the people most affected are the consumer and the lower end employees.

Surely we should be aiming to reduce disparity.

I for one am sick of paying more for less and then being asked to pay more again through taxes to prop up those that make me pay more for less.
Posted by pelican, Sunday, 15 February 2009 9:13:53 AM
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To All of You I'd simply like to say - Thanks!

Why? Well, I think you're all rather terrific.

It's because of our differences - that I value
the input.

Take care,
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 February 2009 9:13:55 AM
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Col, as I've told you before, "advise" is a verb and "advice" is its noun form. It'd be understandable if English was your second language. We'll just have to conclude that you're a bit thick.

More wingnut obsession about the revolting Thatcher. Keep it up, Col.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 15 February 2009 9:20:30 AM
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Dear CJ,

If Maggie Thatcher doesn't appeal to you,
how about the following?:

Half a pound of Mandy Rice
Half of Christine Keeler
Mix it up, what do you get?
A very sexy sheila :)
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 February 2009 9:42:39 AM
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"Surely we should be aiming to reduce disparity."

Pelican hits the nail on the head with this comment. Our problems are caused because we are living out of balance and, in the case of many in the Western world, beyond our means.

"The greatest lesson (from my view anyway) is that for others to live better and in the interests of sustainability, we need to be willing to reduce our own standard of living. We have to change the definition of the world 'efficiency' in the prevailing mindset. Efficiency should reflect quality in the service or product rather than in the share price. In a non-competitive market that we have created through monopolies, the people most affected are the consumer and the lower end employees."

Pretty much right in my view.

The solution is that everyone starts to do what they are NOT so good and strong at. The only variable is whether or not people decide to do this voluntarily. If not, I'm sure that when their survival is on the line, the ones that need to and can successfully adapt will find a way.
Posted by RobP, Sunday, 15 February 2009 1:14:48 PM
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*long sleeved shirts.
Long trousers
Hard hat
Glasses, boots, sunscreen, *

Your saying the company pays for all of the above?

Gee no wonder the poor buggers can’t afford to buy some plastic gloves :)

Why don’t you cut a deal with the water transport to supply gloves- ice merchant.

You should talk with the Truckies union-or regional deveopment. They get grants for everything. Rubber gloves- no problem.

*Once a man with hepatitis gave it to half the job by using his hands, cut and bleeding, to get ice.*

Belly are you telling me, that a bloke with a contagious disease, like Hepatitis, is allowed to work in high degrees with a group of other people and share the same toilet.

Do tell me what they sings read. Watch out Jack was here last:)

Do you know high the risk is of catching something in high temperatures?

Why wasn’t he on sick leave. Why were the others put at risk in the first place.

I thought you said unions were thereto protecting people.



So why don’t they run a generator ice chest and keep their own ice just BTW.
Or is there are regional grant involved with the transport company.

*Employers, and unions, know that must never happen again, the boss will sack ANYONE getting ice without gloves.*

Ok good, and so he should sack them.

But as they ‘know’ why on earth don’t they bring them to work with them?

Seems a bit irresponsible to not protect your ‘own health’ and your children family they go home to. Don’t you agree?

* So PALE once more you launch into unions boots and all, often you sing the praises of one who you claim supports you*

As you said Belly, some unions are good- some nit picking costly useless pretty time wasting fools.

*I had made yet another effort PALE.*

Yes belly you have. But you STILL haven’t told me who pays for the gloves and why pls.


But what is so wrong about my story?

Nothing belly thank you . We love your stories, more pls.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 15 February 2009 1:25:56 PM
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