Belly,
As it appears you are still on this thread, heres a little something showing the hypocracy of PETA.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

I almost forgot about PETA's attempts to get a US Icecream chain to stop using cows milk and use, wait for it, Human breast milk!

There is no end to the irrationality of these idiots. Makes one wonder how they survived after weaning.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2008-35,GGLJ:en&q=peta&start=60&sa=N

Belly

"How can you tell fish feel pain?"

If you'd bothered to read PETA's website on the issue, as you should have before you kicked off this thread, you'd have been able to see the research findings for yourself.

Your casual retraction and apology (if you could call it that) after the false accusations you levelled at me is disappointing to say the least. But I've learnt a bit about you from this thread, Belly, and so have other readers I'm sure.

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming

"We would appreciate Ingreds to explain why a project to phaze out live exports has been so strongly 'opposed'- Yet you claim you want to Ban Live Exports?"

This appears to be addressed to me but I'm not sure why. I've never mentioned Live Exports on this thread. I'm not a member of PETA or any other animal rights group. I just happen to support its stance on the issue of recreational fishing, that's all.

Dickie

"You may already know but it appears that the mystery of the two-headed farmed "sea kitty" has been resolved by a Dr Landos. Watch the Department of Agriculture duck for cover."

No, I didn't know. Thanks.

The DPI officer working on the case, in response to the local MP's demands for answers, was quoted in today's local paper as stating that it would be a 'complex task' finding the cause of the deformities. The tests were 'very sensitive and analytical, using the best equipment available'.

Looks like the ducking for cover has already begun.

Thanks for the link. I'd have been waiting a while to read that particular report in our paper I think.

Bronwyn did you have any post deleted?
Do you know of any deletions in this thread?
PALE for the first time in months said something I agree with.
Do not take political comments personally.
Well some times they are made hoping I will take them personally, but I should not.
Banjo I came back to issue a retraction, and stayed.
But some things need saying Bronwyn, I have no need to look at PETAs home page.
I am never likely to give any credence to them, actions long before sea kittens blackened the fools for me.
You and Dickie have to understand others views have value, that we have the right to different views.
And just maybe statements like I have learned more about you are like a bucket without a bottom.
Useless meaning less, thinking far differently than you is no crime Bronwyn, face it on this issue you are very much in the minority.
Brest milk ice cream? sea kittens? poor old Pammy and pink sound like Bush act like Bush,
Sea Kittens?
Get a stick and chase them under the veranda.

Oh stop your snivelling Belly. Is this what you have accused Bronwyn of?:

“Look at Dickie's post, heart on sleeve for sure but how can harpooning people have got a run?” Belly. How does harpooning non-humans get a run? And Belly, discovering spell-check does not bring wisdom"

(Posted by dickie, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:18:45 PM)

We've waited three days for you to apologise to Bronwyn but no -"mutter, mutter, mutter!"

Shall I apologise? No. You'd already advised in a previous thread that you had found spell-check. In fact you even advised someone else to use it.

Deletions? What deleletions?

"I now leave the thread, I must, I am pledged to myself not to go to war, or talk to pale." 16 January 2009

But you're still here Belly, going to "war" - wallowing in self-pity, admonishing everyone on their "false assumptions." Admonishing everyone with your self-righteous twaddle.

"You and Dickie have to understand others views have value, that we have the right to different views."

Who said you haven't that right Belly? Do you know the meaning of debate?

Aw gawd......go find yourself a clean hanky Belly!

Ah Dickie, LOL, a good post on which to leave this thread I think.

Over 80 posts and NOT ONE poster has presented a counter case to PETA's position on recreational fishing. That tells me that the detractors here don't really have a countering argument. It's far easier just to bucket the organization and those like ourselves who are persuaded by some if not all of its arguments.

I can't say I've enjoyed banging my head on a wall as I have on this thread, but I have appreciated arguing alongside someone with such a good grasp of the issues, a great capacity with language and a sharp ability in picking up on what is said and not said on these threads. A rare combination and all power to you, Dickie.

Now that you've cleared the air on the spell check mystery, an apology from Belly should be forthcoming?

Yes, I know what you're thinking, I won't hold my breath waiting!

Belly

"And just maybe statements like I have learned more about you are like a bucket without a bottom."

Let's put a bottom on that bucket then shall we, Belly. I had thought I'd already said enough for you to pick up on my feelings but now that you've pushed me I'll spell it out for you.

What I've learnt on this thread about you, Belly:

That you have a way to go when it comes to conducting a fair and balanced thread.

That you're lazy about researching and backing up your assertions with quotes.

And that even once it's obvious to all you've got it wrong you're slow to acknowledge your mistake and to apologise for it.

Fortunately, none of this is enough to alter my previous summation of you as basically a decent and worthwhile poster, but as I said I have definitely seen another side.

The twists and turns that a thread can
take are truly bewildering. However,
I suppose that's human nature. We're
such a diverse lot.

But, then I guess so are all creatures,
big and small, right?

Animals kill to survive. We all have to eat,
be it meat, fish, or plants. The choice is ours
to make. Personally, I enjoy eating meat, sea-food,
and vegetables. What I don't enjoy and do object to
is, cruelty to animals, and needless killing of any
animal.

What do I think of PETA and its 'Sea Kittens,' stand.
I don't know that much about PETA, but I would assume
that this is simply a campaign to draw attention to
the needless killing of marine life. The words are
merely semantics.

For anyone who doubts that our marine life deserves to
be preserved, I simply suggest a visit to your city's
Aquarium. It may put things into perspective for you.