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Bronwyn, I think that PETA should stick to matters of obvious and unnecessary animal cruelty....and address sustainability, as every environmental organisation should. Extending their agenda into the realms of normal fishing activities is badly overstepping the mark.

Of course fish are hurt by line fishing. They’re also hurt by net fishing. And fish-farmed fish are hurt or stressed when harvested. We can’t escape that.

What is PETA trying to achieve here. Are they trying to stop or greatly reduce recreational or commercial line fishing or just make people think of fish in a different way, in the hope that a different attitude will make some people think twice before going fishing? Can you tell us Bronwyn?

I guess you would agree that an organisation like PETA should be putting a whole lot of energy (at least half of all their effort) into sustainability, for the reasons I outlined in my last post?
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:08:46 AM
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Foxy

Further to your comments:

What about;

‘The grossly unsustainable path that humanity is on is not heathy for other living things’

Wouldn’t that be a good thing for PETA to be involved with?
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:23:03 AM
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*a fish is a fish is a fish, and it is simply wrong to take its life, just as it is wrong to kill any other form of life*

Yuyu, that is simply your opinion and no more. To you it is most
likely a feelgood thing, but at the same time you are trying
to ignore nature, which means that there is a foodchain.

Even when you fall off the proverbial perch, other species will
chew you up and spit you out :)

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/when-the-cats-away-rabbits-devastate-island-sanctuary/2009/01/13/1231608708301.html

is what can happen when predator species are removed, huge
environmental degredation.

Fact is that if we risk living, then we risk dying at any time.
That is life!

As to suffering, there is another way of looking at things. When
people or other species die of old age, alot of the time its not
quick, its blimming slow, can take months or years of suffering.
Now the Catholic Church tell us that suffering is noble, so
we torture people to their last breath. Give me a death that
is all over in a minute or two, or five, rather then drag it
out for months. Are you now suggesting that as fish get older,
before they die, they don't suffer?

This whole debate boils down to the feelgood factor which ignores
nature.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:29:14 AM
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The sheer lunacy... idiocy... moronic...intelligence challenged... dimwittedness, dumb and dumberness.... of PETA asounds me.

""Imagine reaching for an apple on a tree and having your hand suddenly impaled by a metal hook that drags you—the whole weight of your body pulling on that one hand"

ERRRR duh... Lets revisit that:

"Imagine having just given birth to your new fawn.. you lick it clean, you cherish it.. you shower it with affection.. you delight in all it's new life quirks... THEN SUDDENLY a pack of hyena's come over the RIP IT TO PIECES and EAT IT!

"THAT" is the natural world of animals.

Trying to connect human sentimentality to Animals.. specially FISH.. qualifies PETA for the loony bin as few things can.

A-GAIN.. I'll reiterate.. they are simply trying to impose Eastern Mysticism and religious views on us by stealth.

THE DANGER of idiots like PETA is that when you put a lot of morons together and organize them.. they can actually have an impact.

Next time we have a Roo cull.. let's include a 100% cull of Peta members.
Posted by Polycarp, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:35:30 AM
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anyone fancy some sea kitten and chips? Oh, and don't forget the tomato (plant/fruit kitten) sauce
Posted by Austin Powerless, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:48:18 AM
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Yes it’s a gimmick - top marks to PETA (who are also conservationists) for drawing attention to the plight of our marine life. Man, the largest predator on the planet has a penchant to blow up whales, bludgeon seals to death, boil lobster alive and salivate over their catch while fish are slowly gasping their last breath with a hook in their mouths.

Man constantly cheats and lies to authorities while exceeding fish catches without a thought for sustainability. Man, breeding like rabbits, is responsible for many many mass fish deaths occurring around the world.

Marine life is poisoned beyond an edible state by man but are eventually eaten too by ignorant humans. Mass fish deaths have resulted in mass sea bird deaths around the planet and almost three-quarters of Australia's migratory and resident shorebirds have disappeared over the past 25 years. Now there are some 200 dead zones in our oceans where life in any form cannot survive.

The media have selectively latched onto PETA’s “sea kitten” announcement to back Australia’s livestock industry who had pledged to phase out mulesing by 2010 (joke!) In yesterday’s West, the Pastoralists and Graziers Association were given a half page column to defame PALE, while other letters I am aware of, which have been submitted to the West, in defence of these tortured animals, were not published.

Remember this Polycarp?:

“Even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the true God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.” (Ecclesiastes)

Only man kills for greed; only man kills for fun!
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:55:51 AM
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