*I and mainstream Australia will continue to fish, eat meat, and not help in the campaign to stop live exports.*
Belly.

Fact is, mainstream Australians have 'already' spoken 'against live exports.'

On ABC Land Line ALP went on record. They acknowledged more letters demanding live exports to be banned than any other topic.


Question -

If the public want live Animal Exports banned + Muslims of Australia (for those who didn’t know) -Then WHY does our Government go against the people` wishes s.

Answer.

Because Government`s lack the back bone, principles, to carry out the publics wishes.

They are in bed with the live trade industry.

Donations to parties come first especially ALP and connections to transport unions.

We should ought to consider options to challange their action by going against the public wishes.


Bronwyn

We both know many of the posters on this thread are either members of PETA or Animals Australia and that some of Belly`s views are pretty generally felt about PETA in Australia

What you dont know is PETA and Animals Australia both showed zero interest when approached to unite with Muslim leaders farmers working together to phase out live exports.

The Australian Federation of Islamic Council even lodged a sub to the Senate Enquiry into Animal Welfare.

NO Interest from PETA. AA . When contacted by phone to enquire why- PETA hung up in staffs ear.

Since our organisation working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD joined OLO as corporate members we have been bombarded with anti pale posters using false names whom are clearly here to beat the PETA drum and others.


Our Mission is to reach the PETA 'members' and others and put forth the proposals by Muslims, Farmers , RSPCA QLD CEO to actually work together to help animals.

We would appreciate Ingreds to explain why a project to phaze out live exports has been so strongly 'opposed'-

Yet you claim you want to Ban Live Exports?

Did George Bush write that last post?
We should ought to?
On thread subject one of 50 quotes from Bush in todays Sydney press quote I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully end quote.
yes every word was his in that order, know what he meant?
Once more may I say we all have views opinions and take sides in issues, to both give more weight to our own view and under value others is self defeating.
Fact is if most Australians back any issue it is more than unlikely both forms of government did not agree.
Constant claims Labor is in any way different than last government on live exports is untrue and that is the truth.
Hope Pammy can convince the fish to make love not war.
Actualy fish fall for plastic too, have my bait is plastic not unlike Pammy, not as old but plastic.

"If you have watched the news, then you will know that the US economy is in diabolical shape and they need every cent that they can get! They are after all, our biggest customer for lamb meat and we would not want them to be unable to pay our bill :) So send all the Aussie Dollars that you have."

Dear me Yabby - that's disturbing news. Does this mean that you and your cabal may have to "eat cake." Goodness what can I do to assist?

I know. The most sensible way is to turn them off lamb meat - that's it! It wont be that easy since your industry has assured them that we are a humane nation and wont tolerate animal cruelty.

Oh well here goes:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEQToveb_s&feature=related

I trust that works Yabby.

Cheerio

PS: Let me know if you need more assistance. I'm delighted to help out.

•yes every word was his in that order, know what he meant?

"I know that the human being and the fish can coexist."

On Friday, 29 September 2000, Governor Bush was on the stump in Saginaw, Michigan, and deviated from his prepared speech to reassure the business community that he would not support the tearing down of energy-producing dams merely to protect threatened fish species, an issue he had recently covered while campaigning in the Pacific Northwest:
Friday, feeling the need to explain his statement during a speech on energy policy that he intended to maintain dams in the Pacific Northwest, he departed from his text and added, "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." He did not elaborate.7
Mark Crispin Miller noted in The Bush Dyslexicon that:
This remark is striking not because it's silly but because it casts a threatened creature as a national enemy. A relic of the Cold War, the phrase "peaceful coexistence" was a predétente Soviet coinage, meant to pitch conciliation between the world's two rival superpowers.

Belly
ALP are no different to the Howard Government- correct.
The difference was their dishonerable stunt staged ABC coverage two weeks prior to the elections where they stated they would.

Mr Rudd also dipped out on informing the public about AWBs connection to live exports as Shadow Minister.

Personally I feel we have a much better chance to reopen our own abattoirs for AMIEU 'with' ALP running the country.

Even Kevin Rudd cant do that without the Animal Welfare authoritys teaming up 'with farmers' Muslims to work united and put alternatives on the table.-

Hense PETAs attitude towards such a project is unhelpful to the animals.

Its up to industry to introduce new methods and 'improve' slaughting yards and the Prime Minister and staff to assist.

Me must cut red tape to make chilled carcuss on an even keel.

John Howard had ten years to do something about the cruelty and the loss of Aussie jobs -lets see if PM Rudd can help phaze it out sooner than that.

PS Dont take political comments personally.

Dickie dear, sorry but I don't do Youtube, its not a good idea,
if one has a mobile broadband connection. We are not spoilt, like
you city slickers.

If the American economy should crash to the point of lowering
their lamb consumption, I guess then Wellards would just have
to hurry up those four new ships that they have on order, to
crank up Middle East exports.

So keep sending your money to
the Americans, their economy needs it! It also means less
lambs going to the Middle East, more lamb meat to America.
So you are doing your good turn for the day and can go to
bed feeling better. Don't forget the cup of chamomille tea
to calm the anger :)

Hi Bronwyn

You may already know but it appears that the mystery of the two-headed farmed "sea kitty" has been resolved by a Dr Landos. Watch the Department of Agriculture duck for cover.

The outcome is not surprising since the farmed "sea kitty's" deformity is the result of Australia's continued use of the heinous endosulfan and the fungicide carbendazim.

Endosulfan has been banned by 56 other nations but this "clean, green" country of ours continues to contaminate waterways and marine life with endosulfan. Boths chemicals are carcinogenic and teratogenic.

http://www.liveexportshame.com/news2/index.php?PHPSESSID=2389f6ddbc66648dae7264c8a56268b4&topic=5146.msg6274;topicseen#msg6274

Cheers