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Howdy Belly

Is PETA pulling our leg?

Either that or they’ve lost their marbles!

Oh the poor kittens (those naïve little do-gooders at PETA I mean). So misguided they are.

Their sea kitten campaign is not going to go down well
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/01/sea-kitten-peta.html

What about this: http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/index.asp (:>0

Apart from attempting to give fish a more appealing image, I don’t get the purpose of this campaign.

I don’t see how this campaign fits with PETA’s mission statement: http://www.peta.org/about/index.asp

It seems that PETA has stepped outside of its pretty tightly defined agenda of dealing directly with the mistreatment of animals.

Well, if it is willing to do that, may I suggest that its best course of action is to fight strongly for sustainability. That is, for the balance between humanity and environment, so that the continuously increasing rate of environmental alienation, including fishing and other wild harvesting, and all the death and misery for animals that goes with it, is at least prevented from continuously worsening.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 8:16:40 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu

I was just making a point :)

It's all a matter of degree.

If you put some roundup on a plant...it dies. If you just put a little bit.. a dilute solution the leaves go yellow and it becomes sick.

Some plants manifest an amazing level of intelligence. Ask yourself this? "How can a passionfruit or other climbing plant KNOW which side of it the nearest support is?"

If the answer is 'chemical signals' then I suggest that with animals also it's all just about 'chemical signals'.. we know this to be the case with ants and bees etc.. why not plants?

PETA are just trying to impose eastern mystical religions on us by stealth. I can imagine half of PETA personell have done the pilgrimage to Katmandu or somewhere or spent time in an ashram in India and been infected by the spiritual darkness therein.

If animals feel 'pain'..why is this neccessarily a bad thing? If there is no God..no heaven..no hell.. sheesh..it doesn't matter in the end WHAT we do to anything else. Only the Law can stop us..
Which of course leads to the nub of this issue.. LAW=POWER and those who can change/control the law..have POWER...over others.

So..perhaps PETA people are just egomaniacs who want to control us all?

I reject utterly the idea that some pack of morons like Peta can decide for me by LAW that I can't catch a fish just because it might hurt them....the fish's pain keep me and my family alive... go figure :)

The complete stupidity and hypocricy of PETA is seen in the fact that nature itself causes pain.. the existence of predators.

I'll bet that PETA has some part of their agenda which tries to convert Dogs and Cats into vegetarians...

http://www.vnv.org.au/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=127&Itemid=61

Morons.... absolute morons.
Posted by Polycarp, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 8:47:47 AM
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To each his own, as they say...

Save the Sea Kittens
Save the baby seals
Save the whales
Save the bears
Save the forests

But what about...

"War is not healthy for children
and other living things?"

Wouldn't that be a good place to start?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 9:05:41 AM
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Belly

"PETA let sheep die a horrible death.."

If you're going to attempt to further discredit PETA with this sort of slander, Belly, you need at the very least to provide some evidence.

Belly and Ludwig

May I suggest, with the greatest of respect, boys, that your powers of empathy are not very well developed.

"Imagine reaching for an apple on a tree and having your hand suddenly impaled by a metal hook that drags you—the whole weight of your body pulling on that one hand—out of the air and into an atmosphere in which you cannot breathe. This is what fish experience when they are hooked for “sport.”

Many people grow up fishing without ever considering the terror and suffering that fish endure when they’re impaled by a hook and pulled out of the water. Recreational anglers rarely stop to contemplate that fish are complex and intelligent individuals. In fact, if anglers treated cats, dogs, cows, or pigs the way they treat fish, they would be thrown in prison on charges of cruelty to animals. Even when anglers put fish back in the water after torturing them, many of the fish die from their stress and injuries. A 2006 study conducted during and after a Wisconsin fishing tournament found that hundreds of fish who were caught and released had died within a few days."

http://www.fishinghurts.com/Angling.asp

Ludwig

"It seems that PETA has stepped outside of its pretty tightly defined agenda of dealing directly with the mistreatment of animals."

Don't fish count as animals in your book, Ludwig?
Posted by Bronwyn, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 9:17:32 AM
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Truthfully... I dont think it does any harm to teach young folk to love Creation and desire and strive to preserve it.

If we kill everything off, then whats left?

You and I... and then we die.
Posted by Gibo, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 10:19:19 AM
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I love PETA, they do what I believe all dingbat organizations and associations should do.

They should honestly promote the nature of their cause(s)

And in that promotion they will display their stupidity.

For us all to ridicule, as we as free individuals, see fit.

Far better a PETA loon, carrying a banner and parading outside city-hall, than an entryist beavering away inside city hall, quietly eating away at the processes of democracy in the name of their particular malevolence (the ex-FBI agent, Robert Hanssen springs to mind).

Ah, Bronwyn “Many people grow up fishing without ever considering the terror and suffering that fish endure when they’re impaled by a hook and pulled out of the water.”

It is called “food chains”.

When PETA takes on the task and responsibility for turning all the great whites into vegetarians or vegans then I will believe they are “sincere” in their views on “fishy hurt”

but until that time I will just assume they are merely spewing forth the usual hypocritical crap that fill most half-wired activists, desperately in search of a life.

And I certainly want to be there when PETA do start teaching great whites how to grow mungo beans so they can forego their traditional diet.

I am particularly looking forward to the bit where some righteous PETA activist tries to point a finger of admonishment at the shark for the sharks murderous practices and the shark replies….
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 10:50:30 AM
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