Nicky
Just quickly before I leave I would like to point out to you that PETA base their pitch pretty much at pop or movie stars.( Which is if course their business.)

Its amazing you never seem to have the 'slightest problem 'with that and yet- when we point out something thats very much to do with Australia its suddenly different.=?

Now its all a matter of 'taste I guess, but encouraging young ones and females to be seen as the sexist= see peta= Doesnt really make US feel too happy either!!=

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Col Rouge

You are a man of surprises and absolutely correct of course.

Nicky I don’t have the answers but let’s not pretend everything’s in order because its one huge mess.

If we get a few more people involved we might be able to come up with something- who knows.

Unemotional good advice is rather short around Animal Welfare.


It’s too big for us and too well entrenched. Their is real truth in what he’s warning you about.

Handing out more powers until we know how those powers would be used isn’t wise.

Ok Hugh has requested more powers- to do what anybody know?

Does he seriously think he can police this?

He knows full well despite the fact it’s controlled by AQIS he doesn’t have the staff.

So why isn’t he asking for all puppy factories to be banned?

Or to Ban puppies being exported off shore.

Or To have a paper trail as to where each puppy is going.

Why just more power?

Does anybody know anything more other than what is in the media R

There didn’t seem to be much info there .

I already raised the issue of the x Ministers advisor informing us in the presence of lawyers that Hugh along with the UK RSPCA CEO pledged their ongoing support live exports to then then Minister.

This is a serious concern and it should be for Hugh himself. Either Anne got it wrong or it happened.

fyi Nicky this was sent to AA so I am even more concerned you don’t know what I am talking about.




I dont print things that didnt happen because I know Hughs passion for Slater and Gorden. Now this DID happen so ask yourself why it wasnt followed up on.

Pls try hard to follow what I am concerned about.

Use your imagination maybe.
Happy Christmas to all.

PALE, I really cannot see the most remote relativity between the way PETA campaigns and what you're talking about (assuming you mean Kidman and Jackman). They did not "promote" anything - they acted in a MOVIE. Nothing more.

I personally think the "sex" stereotyping campaigns are a little lacking in taste, but it clearly works for PETA. But did PALE not stage some nude protest at some point?

As for your second post, how on earth would I know anything about something you sent to Animals Australia? I am not in its confidence. I also find it a bit of a leap that even Wirthless would do something as stupid as "pledging support for live exports" (who, by the way. is Alan?). It would be more than what his job was worth (even if he is only the Victorian President), and I think you should ask HIM if it's true. You have claimed here that it is, and that is of concern. If it isn't, then take it up with the AQIS woman - if she is still there. Whatever, it's a long time ago. There are new people and new battles to be fought over this, and re-hashing stuff the former government did really is a waste of time.

That's all for now, Col, I'll come back to your comments a bit later. Fractelle, thank you for your kind words.

Nicky

Nicky



Firstly Merry Christmass and goodbye. After having said that I am guessing your pretty much like me when it comes to slaughtering millions of Animals in celibration of anything.

Ar where`s Yabby ( A rare insight)

Also personal thanks for year 2007 for your kind words and understanding when I lost my friend.

Dont tell Pericles but my sister gave me a puppy for my birthday.

We will have to agree to dissagree about the funds spent to promote Australian Tourism and watch Bowen and live exports.

The films been given the thumbs down by fellow actors. I heard a rumour PETA had a bit to do with that. If its true than I say God Bless PETA.
IMOP think Nicole does support live exports but time will tell.

*But did PALE not stage some nude protest at some point?*

No Nicky, never nude. Dressed Strippers to highlight to the Australian people that the Money to SH was not just wheat but blood money from the cruelty of live exports because Howard ,Rudd RSPCA Animals Australia Andrew would not disclose this very important fact.
http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html

*As for your second post, how on earth would I know anything about something you sent to Animals Australia?* *I am not in its confidence.*

Nicky everyone should be informed if we informed 'them.'

Just like the Australian public should have been told by Rudd RSPCA or Animals Australia about AWB being Live Animal Exporters.

So why didnt any of these organisations disclose this 'fact?

You understand at last why we post.

You keep asking me who is Allan- I keep telling you the CEO of RSPCA UK.

I think animal welfare would greatlty benefit by opening it up to more people like Col. Hes not over the top with a fair handle on how the system is played.

Try to keep him commenting on this thread if its poosible and listen carefully to what hes saying.

Not that I guess he has the answers but he at least understands the problem.

PALE” Col Rouge

You are a man of surprises and absolutely correct of course.”

Thankyou for your comment PALE,

Although I hope it was not me being “absolutely correct” which was the surprise : -)

“I think animal welfare would greatlty benefit by opening it up to more people like Col. Hes not over the top with a fair handle on how the system is played.”

Yes I understand exactly “how the system is played” and it is not how it should be

We would all benefit better from Smaller government, not bigger, regardless how benevolent a big brother he would paint himself to be.

- Stalin showed the world what happens when you have incontestably big government making incontestable regulations.

We only ever benefit from good regulation, never from bad

A recurring theme in my threads promotes less regulation and more personal discretion (to make the choices pertinent to ourselves) in our daily lives.

I will keep beating that drum : - )

PALE, like you, I see nothing to celebrate in the human bloodlust for animals over Christmas and I am glad I'm not part of it. And I imagine Animals Australia disseminates information according to whatever its policies are, on a who needs to know and who wants to know and how confidential it is basis, not to mention legal considerations.

Col, this was the additional content of the article which I had to leave out because of wordcount restrictions"-

"AQIS is only enforcing importing rules, not our rules," said RSPCA president Dr Hugh Wirth. "At the moment we have no breakdown of puppies being consigned to pet shops or brokers or puppy farms and those which are going to be reunited with their owners.

"Quite simply the law has to change and pets should come under the normal export requirements for animals."

This would mean authorities would know exact numbers of animals being exported, and where and why they were shipped.

Tens of thousands of puppies born in intensive breeding farms in Victoria have been exported to Singapore and Hong Kong. According to the quarantine and inspection service, 10,400 dogs — both companion and commercial animals — were exported in the 2007-08 financial year".

With your argument for less rather than more regulation, what our esteemed Mr Wirth is proposing is just that - including companion animals in the existing regulations.

That said, it somewhat escapes me why he is the person commenting on behalf of the national body.

Nicky