Nicky, Dickie:

I have been off-line for a period of time due to problems resulting from electrical storm activity ( blew my dial-up lead connecting to my computer!)

I have just down-loaded 100 odd messages and left this Forum thread until last to allow me time to digest the past transgressions from the "hi-jackers"!

I am amazed and astounded to read the ongoing balderdash, accompanied by the usual spate of mis-spellings and very poor compository offerings that emanate unceasingly from PALE&IF.

Why do you PALE&IF have to jump into every thread and thence attempt to dominate the proceedings until finally every other contributor leaves the thread out of sheer frustration, or like Nicky, has to continue to reply to the tirade of denigrating personal statements to try to retain some sort of sanity in what has seemingly become a "Monty Pythonesque Circus" with a cast of the usual "village idiots"?

Maybe PALE&IF should change it`s name to PATCOB (People against throwing children off bridges) in which it may serve a more useful purpose in it`s constant arguing against other contributors with it`s failed efforts to appear a dominant figure in "jabberwockish-speak"

Cuphandle

Your last comment displays how truely insensive some people can be.
Actually the last three comments highlight that.
At a time of such tradegy for a family that you could post something so utterly insensitive is beyond the PALE

Likewise Dicky and Nicky for the enormous efforts put into improving animal Welfare Standards by Lyn. These types of comments reflect on the Animals themselves.

Shame on you.

Hey Cuphandle, welcome back, I have missed you! I'm glad your computer is up and running again.

You are absolutely right, of course, and I probably play into PALE's hands by even bothering to correct the misrepresentation, inaccuracies, untruths, threats and personal and general vilification directed towards me and everyone else who has disagreed with PALE.

Take for example "Government have (sic) passed legislation that animals may be kept in areas so tiny they can not move". Governments have done no such thing. They have enacted animal welfare legislation, which in theory underpins "Codes of Practice". CoP's are not legislation, they are agreed to by the Primary Industries Ministerial Council. If the RSPCA were entirely truthful, I think it would be revealed that its inspectors do in fact have right of entry to everywhere (except slaughterhouses ... if I took that thought a little further, I wonder if that has anything to do with why PALE wants to open Muslim slaughterhouses ... beyond the profit motive, that is)

As for my criticising Lyn (White, I presume) I would like to see PALE find a quote from me where I have done that, since such a statement is clearly the product of a deluded mind, or something they drink and/or smoke in their members' phone box. Nor have I expressed blanket criticism of the RSPCA. I will criticise it where I believe it has failed in its statutory duty, however.

As for the indictment on your statement, that is just fatuous in the extreme - it would be good to see PALE direct its energies into something that will actually achieve a result of some sort, but I think that is unlikely.

Nicky

(Continued)

I have also clarified on the other thread why the various groups enter intensive farming operations, and it is not to provide "evidence" for the RSPCA, which should be gathering its own evidence. I imagine they do it (at considerable risk to their safety, and possibly personal and professional standing) to bring the conditions in these places to the attention of the public in the expectation that such footage and other evidence would embarass the RSPCA into carrying out its statutory function. All too often, that doesn't happen.

A quick look at AAQ's website (which I note has not been updated for a while (so much for PALE presenting that as recent evidence that AAQ "works against the RSPCA"), Animals Angels (which picks up the RSPCA slack at live export loadings in Fremantle), and Animal Liberation NSW and Victoria (at least), the evidence is quite clear. RSPCA NSW is currently under investigation for paying its board members legal fees to undertake its prosecutions (internal corruption). It also receives royalties from one of the worst battery egg farming operations in the country. RSPCA WA has two farmers on its State Council who sell animals to the live export trade, despite RSPCA stated "policy" against the trade. One has an old conviction for cruelty to animals. Need I go on?

Nicky

Cuphandle said

Why do you PALE&IF have to jump into every thread ;;;

Glenyse, Suzzanne Cazz, Dawn, Debbie Morris, the comments below speak for themselves.
Now we comment number one because WE raised this at Federal level well before you- as always. Despite that why would you have a problem with WHOEVER was speaking up for animals.

This type of attention to our organisation has attracted interested media.
They want to know whats going on between different groups

Keep going and you some might find yourselves being asked why you have driven such a nasty campainge against an organisation working with a rspca branch.=

*I am amazed and astounded to read the ongoing balderdash, accompanied by the usual spate of mis-spellings and very poor compository offerings that emanate unceasingly from PALE&IF.*
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to dominate the proceedings until finally every other contributor leaves the thread out of *sheer frustration, or like Nicky, has to continue to reply to the tirade of denigrating personal statements to try to retain some sort of sanity in what has seemingly become a "Monty Pythonesque Circus" with a cast of the usual "village idiots"?*

Maybe PALE&IF should change it`s name to PATCOB (People against throwing children off bridges)

Nicky said
since such a statement is clearly the product of a deluded mind, or something they drink and/or smoke in their members' phone box

And this is supposed to convey precisely what? It names people who, so far as I know, are not contributors on these fora at all, and does not even give an indication of who they are, apart from the obvious usual menacing of who I understand to be Glenys Oogjes of Animals Australia, and who CAN claim to have some "runs on the board", unlike PALE. For heavens sake, just what is this rubbish supposed to mean?
Nicky