accent,
I read the same diatribe on the Lacemba Muslim Youth website. Of course all Western Democratic free countries are greedy and warlike - well that is your opinion. The fact is you are the enemy of freedom that wishes to impose left wing Islamic totalitarianism upon democratic governments.

nice Philo,
Could you elucidate that 'fact' a little more clearly so an old Anglo/Celtic simpleton might have some inkling of your logic?

"The fact is you are the enemy of freedom that wishes to impose left wing Islamic totalitarianism upon democratic governments."

Hey, Philo, this is the kind of statement which a deranged suicide bomber might make, just before he sent himself and sundry others to wherever he imagined he and they were all destined for.

Or maybe just a throw away line from Faulty Towers!

Yabby..you are right on the money about these socalled hotlines.....they are manned by prolife advocates and freely let you know that they are not impartial..nor are they there for you...they are there to 'change your mind' to put it nicely..

No it would not surprise me at all if they actually called women murders and the like....

They are next to useless and only complicate a siuation that is already fraught with guilt and anguish..

Thats the church for you...again.

OZGIRL,
Unless you have used these counselling services; You ought to get accurate knowledge because you are self opiniated rather than factual. Shooting off the top of your head conclusions about pregnancy counselling services of which you know nothing does not enhance your authority.

I've never needed to talk to a pregnancy counselling service, Philo, for two obvious reasons.
1. As a man, I can't get pregnant.
2. I've never fathered an unwanted child.
But that doesn't mean I don't understand the difference between Pro-choice and Anti-choice.

It is the duty of a Pro-choice counselling service to discuss the various options, in a sensitive, but straightforward, non-judgemental way.
It is [to them] the God-given duty of an Anti-choice counselling service to save the embryo at all costs and perhaps also to save a wicked woman from eternal damnation from a vindictive superpower.

Under the circumstances, how can any woman get impartial counselling from an Anti-choice service?