Philo, the Bretheren might be up your moral alley, but I too have
lots of questions about them. Apparently there will be a 4 corners
programme next week, telling us more.

By what I've heard and know so far, they are into brainwashing and
mind control, much like the JWs. I abhor those techniques, no matter
who they are practised by. But I shall wait to learn more from the
4 corners programme.

Philo, Exclusive Brethren may be good business people, but as a religious group I wouldn’t call them of the highest moral order.

Bob Brown called them un-Australian for some of the following reasons. http://greens.org.au/mediacentre/mediareleases/senatorbrown/040906c/
They:
* ban married women from the workplace.
* ban all women from jobs where they are not subservient to men
* ban unions from workplaces under Howard's IR legislation
* ban all children from university education
* forbid voting and military service (there would not necessarily be anything wrong with that if it wasn’t for the fact that they contradict themselves. They say that God makes politics, men shouldn’t. That’s why they don’t vote.
Uhmmm but they bugger the Greens, fund anti-greens etc.

Is it not against their own church rules which dictate to leave politics to God- yet now they pump large amounts of money in politics?

Do they think that God can’t handle politics all by himself and are giving God a helping hand (offering handsful of money)?
I think they might have started out like an normallish cult (as far as cults can be normal) just wanting a ‘pure and simple’ life, but they are turning more and more perverted.

Don’t forget that they are also extremely homophobic- perhaps that’s the main reason they hate the Greens. Either that, or they don't like a cleaner environment.

Don’t forget that they don’t even read papers, or allow computers in their schools.
They also do not want their kids to go to Uni. Why not? They might learn about reality and be poisoned by the world? Is that the reason?

If memebrs have a fallout with their church, they are not only banned from their church but also banned from contacting their families! How moral is that?

High morality? Perhaps in principle, I don't know that- but not in reality. They're only as moral as their last actions!

I think they may be under investigation now so hopefully the truth will come out.

Yabby, "Apparently there will be a 4 corners programme next week, telling us more."

Thanks for letting us know. I hope I won't miss that program! Can't wait to see it! I have lots of questions as well.

Celivia.
You have exposed yourself by aligning your belief in the authority of Bob Brown on morality. Of the Australian population only 8% would agree with the principles of morality espoused by Brown. He is merely the spokes person for an extremist minority group wishing to subvert Australian culture, morals and social values. He stands in a juxtaposition to the normal and traditional morality that birthed Australian society. That is the reason why the Exclusive Brethren are arousing from their secluded lives, because Bob Brown now threatens the security and stability of our society. Four Corners is equally subversive so it will pander to your opinion.

Your quote: "Bob Brown called them un-Australian for some of the following reasons. http://greens.org.au/mediacentre/mediareleases/senatorbrown/040906c/
They:
* ban married women from the workplace.
* ban all women from jobs where they are not subservient to men
* ban unions from workplaces under Howard's IR legislation
* ban all children from university education
* forbid voting and military service (there would not necessarily be anything wrong with that if it wasn’t for the fact that they contradict themselves. They say that God makes politics, men shouldn’t. That’s why they don’t vote.
Uhmmm but they bugger the Greens, fund anti-greens etc."

Philo, why do you think that banning children from university is highly moral?
Why is banning married woman from the workplace highly moral?
Why is banning unions from workplaces without consulting their staff highly moral?

You say: “That is the reason why the Exclusive Brethren are arousing from their secluded lives, because Bob Brown now threatens the security and stability of our society. “

So if I’m correct, this is your (and Exclusive Brethren’s) logic:

1. Exclusive Brethren (EB) may not involve themselves in politics because politics is God’s job. This is their basic rule and the reason they are not allowed to vote, watch tv, read newspapers etc.

2. But because the Greens are opposing EB’s morals, suddenly there is an exception: it is now not God’s job anymore and the EB take over, snatching away politics from God.
Perhaps God meant to include the Greens in politics- otherwise he wouldn’t have let this happen, would he?
Now EB are playing God because they didn’t think God’s decision was good enough, or because they think God is powerless against the Greens and he needs help to hurt the Greens- help from EB, of course.

3. Politics are only God’s job if politics do not contradict EB morals.

Hmmmmmm…
This is too funny, Philo, can I have some more of your logic to entertain myself with?

"Four Corners is equally subversive so it will pander to your opinion."

What about simply the truth, about the weird things they believe in
and how they use mind control and brainwashing to keep followers
inline?

I had a guy who worked for them deliver some gear to me one day.
No radio allowed in the truck, sounds like they are evil too lol.

I think when it comes to reasoning, Celivia left you in your
underpants with her last post Philo :)