Are they allowed to wear underpants, Philo?

I was just in the middle of reading about their spiritual and emotional abuse. I think Yabby might be right about their mind control.

Outsiders are only shown the positive side of this cult and because their system is not based on the truth they cannot allow questions, attacks or open discussions about issues. Leaders will keep secrets from their members. The person or interviewer (Four Corners etc) will no doubt become more of a problem for EB than the issue itself!

This will be enjoyable!
I am looking forward to this Four Corners discussion more by the minute!

Luckily, their members will never know about this program and the truth as they are not allowed to watch TV, listen to the radio, read newspapers or novels and owning a computer is especially evil!

What disturbes me most is that they exclude members who have offended against the church and those excluded are prevented from having contact with their family members because they are afraid to be contaminated with their worldly views.
There are grandparents who have never seen their grand children. Don't you think that is sad, Philo?

These are their so-called highly moral principles.

Now we have the hill-billies AND this EB clan sticking their cult-claws into Australian politics.

We have a large community of Exclusive Brethren in my local area. Many who have left the EB community now attend local churches. Their upbringing might have been strict, but they are the most gentle of people I know, and I have worked for and with a few.

It appears several here want to get their hostile mind and claws into these families and controll them with their own subversive agendas. The only way to help these people develop is by care and love. Not like the Bob Browns of this world whose agenda is ridicule and political controll.

I suggest the Greens look at the number of radical Muslims in their membership and deal with them, because they want political control by Government. The Exclusive Brethren will never join the membership of any political Party, but they have a right to lobby for support of their families as that is their democratic right.

Philo
Your last comment was very sensible.
I have no doubt at all that the members of EB are basically gentle and nice people. I feel really sorry for the ones that got sucked in at a low point in their lives by such a cult/sect. A cult's leader or certain members of a cult may be very charismatic and seductive and not everybody can see through such dishonesty and wackiness.

I think that it is a very good thing that the members who left now attend local churches- I assume they need some support. Many were bullied and emotionally or spiritually abused.
I agree that members, especially the ones who left EB need love and care and I am glad that local churches can provide that for them.
This abuse of EB may come out tonight on Four Corners.

My point is not to attack the members, especially not the ones who left.
My point is to criticise the cult and leader(s) of this cult for what they do to their members. The sooner this cult will fall apart, the better it is for their members.

I don't think people on here don't want to "get their hostile mind and claws into these families and controll them"- it is the EB leader who is doing the controlling and bullying.

My point is to criticise the cult itself to FREE the members from it and to prevent new people from being sucked in.

continued

Philo,
I thought you were into one of the mainstream Christian religions and you believed in the truth of the bible.

EB generally deny the truth of one or more aspects of the bible and that’s why they have separated themselves from Christianity; they have rejected part of Christianity.

The reason EB are spreading so much anti-propaganda about the Greens is to stigmatise the ones who criticise their group.
It is quite common for a cult to convince their initiates that people who oppose their group are demonic and must be avoided. EB seem to have set their mind on doing this to Bob Brown.

Really, Philo, I thought as a ‘good Christian’ you would see through their typical cult behaviour.
If you agree with the ideas of this cult, then you agree there is something untrue about the bible.

If you think that your mainstream religious doctrine is moral and correct, then you must agree that a cult is morally corrupt. How can you say that they are of highest morals? There is almost NOTHING moral about them.

Independent thinkers are the greatest enemies of EB.

How's this for reasoning:
EB are basically a group of dissenters from Christianity, who are mentally and spiritually bullying and punishing their own members to prevent them from dissenting from their group. A bunch of dissenters punishing dissenters. Hmmmm.

Something I found and am posting below just for our entertainment ;)

"While most religions have elements of wackiness in them, the incongruity of the rules by which the Brethren live is unusually abnormal. Their sewer pipes must go straight to the mains. They eschew shared driveways and prohibit cross-lease property ownership. Their cars must not be turbo-charged.
The closest they come to sense is banning television. Computers are out, as are radio-telephones, cell phones, record players and bar coders. All this new-fangled stuff is the work of Lucifer, although aircraft conveniently are accepted. To engage in swimming, team sport, entertainment of friendship outside the membership brings swift exclusion from the sect. It goes without saying that their views on the status and role of women make Saint Paul look like a feminist.

By David Lange (former NZ Prime Minister).

I agree with Celivia, its the cult leaders that are the problem,
usually not the members, who are victims. The question arises
that if cults so brainwash and control their kids, information
about the world etc, that these kids are unable to become rational
and thinking adults, why should those cults not be charged
with child abuse?