Philo

My question was "would you assist by transporting the pregnant woman to an abortion medic?"

Yes or no

And you fudged, yet again.

Yabby - perhaps if you refrained from personal abuse (ie constant references to Wendy's uterus) you might find she responds a little less agressively.

This world is neither fair nor unfair, benign or malignant; it simply is.

We may hold deeply felt beliefs, and that’s fine. A mark of maturity is realising that we cannot impose our beliefs; our will upon others.

I asked Philo an unfair question, knowing well that he is opposed to abortion; I asked him if he would help a pregnant woman, who vehemently wanted an abortion, by taking her to a doctor who could perform the abortion for her.

With Philo’s predictable response, I have proven that he would impose his beliefs and desires over that of the woman’s.

Philo puts his desires above that of others.

This is a mark of immaturity.

It is also controlling the destiny of others against their will. Therefore, it is about power.

3 years ago, I sat in a veterinarian’s consulting room while he put my elderly cat to sleep. My cat still had a strong heart, good eyesight and hearing, he wasn’t crippled by arthritis; in fact he had a good life. He also had an inoperable tumour in his throat. My desire was for him to live. But, to do nothing would’ve meant that my cat would’ve died slowly of aphixiation, so against my will I held his head in my hand while the vet euthanised my cat.

As I stated at the beginning of this post, the world is neither fair nor unfair; benign or malignant.

It is only our behaviour that can be either, we can treat ourselves and others with respect or we can choose to impose our beliefs upon others.

We create our own good or evil. We are responsible for our own actions. We are not responsible for the actions of others. All we can do is offer our support for whatever decisions others may make – whether we agree or not. We CAN offer an opinion, but that is all we can do; we are not gods, we do not impose control over others.

I would like to believe that Philo would read these words and consider his actions towards others in future.

Scout, I was not even thinking of her comments to me, but to others
like Graham and Philo actually. Going over the top, wearing her
heart on her sleeve, is a reflection on her, not on me, but it was
time that somebody pointed it out to her, for IMHO it makes
her look fairly foolish.

BTW, the uterus is at the core of the US abortion debate, where
partial abortions etc take place. Its also part of any discussion
on biology or medicine, so frankly I think you are rather
misinformed to link it to abuse. Queen Victoria died a long time
ago now, we discuss things openly and honestly in 2006.

Yabby

At least I have A heart.

Scout
As you probably guessed come on here in the search of good christians to confront regarding their absence regarding animal welfare while at they same time talking about womens biz.

Hypicrits. They usually take off as you can see with Graham.

However according to pig farmer I should not be posting anywhere other than your forum and that of Scouts.

Dont ask me why. I am sick of getting a kick in the bum when I try hard to help people.

Thanks for trying to say something to Yabby about his way of speaking to me.

It does upset me but I suspect he talks like that because he doesnt like me so he wishes to upset.

Never Mind I will be putting him on the ship soon.
Just arranging the papers.

Its taking a bit longer because I have to get another licence through compliance because of those three charges against us in the other companies name for animal cruelty.

Still Yabby will be on his way soon. I think I will take him to the dock in person.

That will be my last post.

There was a discussion on Sunrise this morning which I half missed before getting out of the door.
It was about "inside a religious sect" and about what influence this particular sect/cult, called Exclusive Brethren, has on politics.
These people seem mad- I find it hard to believe that even this crazy sect are able to actually influence our politicians by funding the ones who agree with their stands. This is pretty bad if it is true!
Not too many people know about this as they seem to cover their tracks very well.

I found some other article on them when I googled them just now:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1461155.htm

Has anyone watched the full discussion? I'm finding it interested to find out more about these weirdo's.

Celivia,
In case you had not realised these people are of the highest moral order of society. They own large furniture, food, and clothing manufactuing throughout the Western world. They have equal and legitimate rights to contribute to political Parties in which they believe uphold their moral values. They are no different to Major Businesses making legitimate funds available to political Parties.

I have worked for some and they are decent people. That you wish to degrade them without any facts indicates the poor morality of you stand.