Contiuned
The rest of the animals were shipped off.

Some people are over senstive about talking about these things. The last time we sent this off we had a visit from the special branch dogs and all.
Think about it why . Why quite emails to local Drs?but no public announcement. . Aljazeera showed more interest.

11/1/2002 - Anthrax outbreak on two cattle properties in Queensland.
Two cattle properties in southern Queensland have been quarantined as a result of an outbreak of anthrax.


A case of human anthrax in Victoria
A human case of anthrax was identified through surveillance of knackery workers who had been exposed to
infected cattle. The outbreak in cattle has affected 38 herds in the Stanhope/Tatura area of central northern
Victoria. The human case, was a 39 year old male. Public health measures are in place to prevent further human
cases. Comm Dis Intell 1997;21:47-48.


Anthrax, caused by Bacillus anthracis, is primarily a disease of ruminants which infects humans. Cases in animals,
particularly cattle, occur in Victoria across a wide area in the south of the State, and along the Goulburn and Murray rivers.
Anthrax was detected on two adjoining dairy farms in the Stanhope/Tatura area in central northern Victoria.
The number of affected properties remained low until 4 weeks later when the number of affected properties and
cattle began to escalate rapidly. 38 herds had been affected, including both milking and non-milking dairy herds.
Meat from these carcasses had already been sold. Immediate control measures taken by the Department of Human


Services followed the outbreak. • local doctors were advised of the outbreak, provided with a fact sheet, and advised what steps to take, and specimens were sent to the Victorian Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory (VIDRL).
CDI Vol 21, No 4
1. Infectious Diseases Unit, Department of Human Services, Level One (South), 115 Victoria Pde, Fitzroy Victoria 3065.
2. Department of Human Services, Loddon Mallee Region, Victoria.

Dickie Nicky . A polite letter to Muslim Leaders World will do more good than anything to point out the risks of buying live.

Hi dickie,

Yep, everything is a govt conspiracy, all aimed at irritating animal libbers. Yet you are quite happy to provide a SA govt link when it suits.hmmmm.

so where is the evidence for linking crohns and johnes diseases? That Johnes disease exists in Australia is not in question, but thanks for sharing.

no further evidence of "canadian bse woman"?

Yes, I plainly said AQIS made a mistake, they're only human. The New Caledonia animals were treated, unfortunately by the wrong method.

Sorry to disappoint, I gain nothing from live-exports. I just dislike false information passed of as fact, when used to deliberately disadvantage others. I post my links to be as factual as possible, I do not fear the truth.
You're not implying that you actually cherry pick or spin what you tell us? surely not.

Hi all
Rojo, I agree with you insofar as disease information that is old may not be especially useful here, but I do remember reading myself somewhere recently (and sorry, I can't provide a link because I can't remember where I read it) that there IS a link between OJD and Crohns. I'd also have to point out that of the several AQIS mortality reports that have been released, as well as the cattle incident in New Caldedona, indicate that AQIS is very much "asleep on the job". I understand that in Fremantle that they rarely attend the loadings of ships, and of course nor does RSPCA WA.

A shipment of sheep left Tasmania (the last one from there, I believe) where ill and injured sheep were delivered and accepted into the feedlot, then (after over a thousand were destroyed) ill and injured sheep were loaded onto the sheep (hence the death toll and resulting mortality report). The mortality reports (by AQIS) also all seem to state that the animals are not given the "mandated" period in feedlots (resulting in the inanition/salmonellosis syndrome, I'd suggest). Reports from Tasmania, for example (not from "animal libbers" either, in fact quite the opposite) indicated that a large percentage of the sheep were only there for a matter of hours. These are the sorts of reasons why RSPCA Australia's Bidda Jones states that the industry is incapable of monitoring itself or providing reasonable standards of animal welfare.

So much for "World's best practice". The fact of the matter is that no-one else has any standards at all, and Australia's standards are worthless.

Cheers
Nicky

* I understand that in Fremantle that they rarely attend the loadings of ships, and of course nor does RSPCA WA.*

Err hang on Nicky, if that were the case, that would be evident by
the AQIS charge sheets. Do you have evidence, or is this just another
claim to try and denigrate the industry as per normal ?

*These are the sorts of reasons why RSPCA Australia's Bidda Jones states that the industry is incapable of monitoring itself or providing reasonable standards of animal welfare.*

That would be like me saying, because one dead apple works for the
RSPCA, they must all be dead apples. Not so. As in any industry,
there are good and bad. The idea is to sort out the good from
the bad and deal with those. It could well be that a contractor
in Tassie is not doing his job. When converting sheep to other feed,
you need to focus on the rumen bacteria, or you land up with
acidosis. So you need to buffer feedstuffs to deal with that,
or you will get problems.

* and Australia's standards are worthless.*

They are not worthless at all, as the mortality rate changes in
the last 10 years show. There have been huge improvements.
But then Nicky, as we know, you are unable to be objective and
even give an inch on anything, no matter how much has changed.
That is why I call you a fanatic. You really do deserve the title.

Dear Yabby, the standards are worthless in the sense that not one meaningful penalty has been imposed against one exporter who has manifestly breached the standards (see AQIS reports). Being instructed to carry more medicine and allow more space does not constitute a meaningful penalty. Not a fine, not a suspension to be found. They measure ONLY the animals still able to stand at the end of the voyage, nothing more.

The standards are even more worthless once the animals are on the ships and even more so when they arrive in countries with either no animal protection laws or "agreements" which provide only for them to be offloaded (in order to avert another potential Cormo Express fiasco). Those are totally unenforceable. We are talking about people in these countries who neither abide by OIE standards to which they are signatory, or to their OWN religious tenets.

- not killing animals in the presence of other animals
- the animals are not to be bound
- the slaughterman makes a dedication of the animal to ‘Allah’ and face Mecca
- the animal should be killed with a single cut to the throat with a long sharp blade, and
- the animal must not suffer prior to slaughter.

Can you see one that they observe?

The standards also only go as far as the ship. Once the animals are on the ships (in fact, once they are delivered to feedlots) their fate is sealed. The evidence I have of AQIS not attending loadings in Fremantle is witness evidence of people who ARE there. Fudging of charge sheets by a government department? God forbid. In one AQIS report it is stated that the AQIS appointed third party vet had his own cattle in a consignment and approved the ship to sail into a cyclone. You guessed it, major mortality incident.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky

Your information on AQIS is a timely reminder that Australian taxpayers' funds are being sqandered on a department which is notorious for its blunders.

Yet we have the simian-like knuckle scraping rock apes here, continually defending a department which is actively engaged in the unconscionable carnage of defenceless animals and a bureaucracy which approves the violation of the basic laws of any humane society.

Let's consider Rojo's defence of this department where he states: "Yes, I plainly said AQIS made a mistake, they're only human. The New Caledonia animals were treated, unfortunately by the wrong method."

One mistake is forgiveable - perhaps even a couple. "Unfortunately" Rojo, constant mistakes - unforgiveable! You are aware of these blunders therefore your antipathy towards people who object to the abominable culture which pervades this industry, drastically reduces your credibility.

"Australia's first line of defence," AQIS claim. Well a few recent blunders by our "first line of defence" comes to mind.

AQIS are guilty of:

1 Allowing the loading of animals diseased and unfit for travel to the Middle East and other countries
2 Thereby exposing healthier animals to the contagions these animals carry and placing other nations at additional risk of zoonotic outbreaks
3 Placing this nation's biosecurity and economy at grave risk over the mis-management of equine flu outbreak. The AQIS is now likely to be hit with a multi-million dollar damages claim over the equine influenza outbreak.
4 Exporting cattle tick to New Caledonia and placing New Caledonia's cattle herd at risk. Taxpayers hit with large bill and potentially more to come.
5. Failing to perform inspections in WA for Johne's Disease

etc etc.

Quoting Rojo's accusation: "I just dislike false information passed of (sic) as fact, when used to deliberately disadvantage others."

Please supply the name of those posters you claim are lying and deliberately disadvantaging others - together with supporting evidence, ASAP please Rojo.