I am not biased Steel, you are misunderstanding what I have said or maybe I have not expressed myself as well as others are able. It seems pointless arguing with you and some others in these types of discussions because you only see one side of the argument. Even when someone agrees with a point you make you jump on one selective sentence and completely misinterpret it.

You can put up any link you like but you won't change the fact that some people behave badly, men and women alike. You have not once acknowledged or shown sympathy for women of abuse in any of your posts.

You accuse me of bias but then go on to quote a number of statements attributed to various women about men. Where are the derogatory quotes about women by men if you are being totally fair.

Even when someone agrees with you on a point, you can't quite accept it for some reason I can't quite determine but you certainly don't have a high opinion of women and we are all bad in your book.

What is the point of trying to discuss something with you when you only read what you want to read by cherry picking and misinterpreting other posts to suit your own agenda. I'll leave you to it but I do hope that support and advocacy for male victims increases despite some of the strong feelings that may in fact work against this objective.

Don't take it personally (i'm sure you don't) I did recognise at the time your post agreed in some sense and that is why i only picked up on one or two small parts i thought were out of place.. that means i thought

Don't take it personally (i'm sure you don't) I did recognise at the time your post agreed in some sense and that is why i only picked up on one or two small parts i thought were out of place..

Vanilla, maybe you should be careful you don't stand on the 'grey slodgy thing on the floor '. It may belong to you. While, like the anal-sex promoting, self-proclaimed enthusiastic heterosexual (CJ), you don't agree with Rense, you might like to consider that his article referred to the Auschwitz Museum Director, Dr. Franciszek Piper, and quoted him in quite a few statements that negated many claims of the Holohoax. Or is the director not a good enough source. Scrub that, he's a good source but, as he is stating something that you don't agree with, his views are worthless.

Both you and CJ seem to be supportive of minorities. As , at this time, holocaust deniers are still in the minority, shouldn't you be lending them some support? Or are you hypocrites?

What will you write on your T shirts?

"Vanilla, maybe you should be careful you don't stand on the 'grey slodgy thing on the floor '. It may belong to you."

Good comeback! It's like, I know you are, but what am I?

Yes - Jack's an intellectual giant.