Nicky

Your dislike of Muslims and RSPCA are all over the forum. I know I stopped posting along with others because I got sick of it.

You claim you like animals and I think the more the better despite working in different ways.

I do read the forum still and keep up on several topics but mainly animal welfare.

I am also in a far better position than you to comment on pale MOUs with Muslim Leaders of Australia.

I do not see anywhere pale claiming they were speaking on behalf of all Muslims

What I see is a honest post expressing disappointment in certain changes and promises broken.

There is nothing wrong with that and I think it’s healthy. I see pale are also quick to point out there are many other Muslims that are saying the same thing.

One thing I do know Nicky is I have not seen you anywhere near meetings with these people as I have attended. So its clears as I said I would know a lot more than you.

Your intentions are clear. Every thread pale enters they are followed by you too weak to post your real name.

I support RSPCA and farmers and the many really good well intended Muslim People in Australia.

That means I support pale because they are the only ones supporting RSPCA and the good Muslim People and there are plenty.

Again I should know because unlike you I have actually met with them many times.

The submissions referred to be to the Senate Committee for Rural and Regional Affairs you keep going on about thread after thread was a fantastic example of Muslim Leaders working together with RSPCA QLD and pale.
It was only made possible through pales MOU with AFIC and pale have worked tirelessly towards improving Animal Welfare.

Despite your claim otherwise RSPCA QLD are the leaders without a doubt working in many projects and spear heading new solutions.

Never read sensible suggestions from you other than rubbish RSPCA Muslims Farmers or Pale.

Why don’t you do something more productive?
For the Animals

To Macropod Whisperer amd PALE, neither of whom post in their own names ...

1. It was not I who raised the issues about radical Muslims, I merely commented that people of any ethnic origin who emgrate to different countres should live by the rules of those countries or reconsider their emigration decisions. I also did not presume a broad knowledge of Muslim culture, I simply pointed out that people of Anglo-Saxon origin living in Australia are not the people to be purporting to representing that culture, even if they do know a few.

2. It was not I who raised the dreaded old Senate submissions, it was PALE

3. It is a fact that RSPCA Queensland does not have carriage of the welfare of "farmed animals" in that state. That was not necessarily a criticism of RSPCA Queensland, since I am aware that there are some excellent operators up there, but it is something of an easy way out. It leaves the path to abuse wide open since Departments of Primary Industry generally have that responsibility, and in some states they are also the regulators of intensive farming industries.

So Macropod Whisperer, you should read the full content before you engage in abuse at the PALE level. I also expressed no interest or desire in attending meetings with "Muslim leaders" at any time (or any association with PALE), stating quite openly that I do not support PALE's philosophy. Just because PALE says its strategy, which seems to have "gone pear-shaped", is the "only way" by no means indicates that to be the case. You really all need to get over yourselves, stick to topics at hand, try to communicate a bit civilly and clearly, and stop abusing everyone who disagrees with you. You present as totally disorganized, incoherent and unprofessional, and do your cause no good at all. Do you not care about that?

Nicky

Nicky?

Who are you kidding we are the only ones who are upfront as to who we are.
We have put our site up for all to see several times- Here we are again along with Muslim Leaders and RSPCA QLD
Of course you prefer to his behind a false name so other readers of the forum can not identify you.

http://www.livexports.com/
http://www.halakindmeats.com/

Why you continue to attack good people like pale and Macropod Whisperer Taryn.

They give their own personal funds and hours daily for free to help are certainly not the enermy.

The subs you have so nastily pointed out as being rubbish are an insult to Muslim Leaders considering they lodged them.

It was their first sub to a Senate Enquiry into Animal Welfare in Australians history.

It took three nights working after hours and many late night calls to enquire what this code of practice was and what is meant and so forth.
I am proud of the Muslim Leaders at the time for that. Its fair to say it’s more than our Christian leaders did.

I don’t think they have ever lodged a sub to a Senate Enquiry into Animal Welfare in their lives...

While we are being very open about our anger to 'some' peoples changes since the elections -we have stressed this is only with some Muslim leaders.

It’s no different to complain about Kevin Rudd and Kerry Obion prior elections promises.

Nicky said
I do not support Pale’s philosophy.
Pale replies

Apart from RSPCA QLD I would have to say our best support comes from four Muslim People all holding different positions within the Muslim Society

Nicky said
And it's disappointing that you apparently believe that FGM is acceptable.

Nicky this is Wendy Lewthwaite of pale.

Neither pale nor I said they supported FGM and I ask you to request that remark be removed from this forum.

No.
Nicky

To my FAN CLUB... I realized of course that to put a list up like I did from Wiki that there would a be a couple of contributors who would take it upon themselves to declare it a mirror image or a self description :)

Like I didn't see that coming :) hence.. assuming it would come, I just ignored it, till now.

Thing is, it's all in the perspective. But can any of you actually point to a 'name' I've called you in the last month or so ?

I think I asked a question of Pericles "Are you stubborn or ignorant" and it was a genuine question...not a name call.

So.. please (now that you love my 'list' :) make your own of 'names' I've called any of you which can qualify for the first 2 points on the list.

-Labelling.
-Name calling.

But Ginxy.. if you do :) you so KNOW what I'll quote in reply don't ya.

TOPIC. Most muslims are moderate .... yes. Until you threaten Islam, or.. threaten to tighten legislation about Islam or Muslims... then the picture changes somewhat.

"I think I asked a question of Pericles "Are you stubborn or ignorant" and it was a genuine question...not a name call."

This post has given me the biggest laugh of the day (aside from one Col wrote about "checking out chicks").

It bamboozles me, Boazy, that anyone could have interpreted this as anything other than a genuine question. After all, it has a question mark! In the same "no offense or nothing" vein, I'd like to pose a question to you.

Are you self-delusional, or just not a very nice person?