gz,

No Uk.

Nick
Let me get this straight. You come into this thread- just out of the blue like- never posted here before. You - take swipes at us saying we know a little about what upsets Muslim People- after working more closely with them than any of you. –

Then you proceed to be some official on what upsets Muslim faith people. Seesh!

You have done nothing other than abuse
Our staff over a very long period of time. THEN you say keep it nice.

You go on with a silly ill-informed statement about AWB.

No Nicky it was only outside” twelve weeks “prior to the elections that Howard’s Government announced on one only ABC radio statement that AB W enquiry had to close due to no funding.

Nicky you go on to say you doubt our comments but then dish out your old- *For those wishing a reliable source bla*

And here you are again nicky saying>
“There is nothing "moderate" about FGM. There are degrees in severity, but it remains mutilation. In those countries, female rape victims are often publicly flogged and/or stoned to death, and other miscreants are dealt with extreme severity”

Pale comments Ooow that ought to help fish relationships.
Well done! Since when was it up to us to tell ME people how to live?

Here you are again>
If Muslim leaders have no respect for Australians, then perhaps they should give some “thought to returning to their country/is of origin, where one presumes they will have some respect for the people, and leaders there. The penalties are harsh if they fail to demonstrate that respect.”
Why can we not "keep it nice"?

Pale comments ,hilarious why cant you keep in nice indeed.

I* will report the AFICs new presidents attitude but I am not asking Him to leave the country for god Sake!

I think a please explain will do.

If we asked everybody to leave the country each time they didnt honour their word there would be nobody left

PALE, I don't think that knowing a handful of Muslim people qualifies you to comment on their behalf, and it's disappointing that you apparently believe that FGM is acceptable.

When you move to another country, you accept the rules that that country lives by. If you are not prepared to do so, then you should live somewhere where you ARE prepared to live by the rules. It is quite simple.

So the Howard government discontinued the rather obscure AWB enquiry. It changes nothing. Continuing it would change nothing either. The Howard government is dead. The Rudd government doesn't give a damn about all the stuff you are trying to make an issue of. So let's give it a rest. As someone pointed out, the information you are propounding as intimate knowledge was derived from a media release, so it is a matter of public record for those who are interested. I am not.

Give us a break from the conspiracy theories, and the constant, incoherent abuse, and you might one day be able to get someone to work with you.

That is the REAL reason, I suspect, that none of the animal groups will have anything to do with you. You give them a bad name. If you want to do something on a professional level you need to learn to behave like a professional. Asking someone like you to "keep it nice" was never going to go anywhere, but those people new to this forum must be really wondering what sort of outfit it is that you purport to be running.


Nicky

Nicky
I may be slapping a few over the nuckles at present and rightfully so. However that is supported by many Muslim people as well. I am NOT going to tell them all to leave the country- like you!

You raved on about us working with the Muslims to earn our blood money as I think you termed it or words to that effect.

If you look at our web site or the Subs to the Senate Enquiry into Animal Welfare in fact you will see a very different picture.

You will see letter of support from The HS Society along with Subs and letters from The Muslim Leaders at AFIC at the time.
So that’s far from being without support.

No we are not happy with the change of events that have taken place since the new elections. (AFIC)

Now speaking of disunity your friends had a twenty year track record for that.

You may not see the connection Nicky with AWB and the findings of the Cole Enquiry.( Or the fact is was closed down before reconditions for charges to be laid against high ranking people In government- However we do.
We work in conjunction with RSPCA QLD and I remind you again they are in charge of Animal Welfare not your friends as much as they like to think they are.
It’s interesting that we are invited to sit at the table of the sheep council for example and hold talks on the condition we do not bring them.
It’s also interesting sad that farmers are staring to hate animal welfare groups. Very sad. That’s the worst possible result we could hope for.
If you give the farmers and the indusrty a hand to reopen more plants creating competition so they get a good price.

Nicky until you fully understand the meat industry it is you who are doing damage because the industry and the Government laugh at the libbers ignorance it the trade.
Now please tell this forum what has changed regarding live exports run by AWB
I am waiting? This ought to be good.

She'll be a good gal after I offered her a chance to win a big price on this thread: "Are Americans about to subvert Islam?"
Posted by gz, Saturday, 8 March 2008 6:22:09 PM

................a big PRICE??

A BIG PRICE....YOU WIN IT!

PALE continues to be as incoherent as ever, and sees only what it wants to see. I did not at any time suggest that "all Muslims should leave the country", I simply said that anyone (not only Muslims) who has come to this country and is not preprared to live by the rules should go somewhere where they are. I also have never used the term "blood money", or "words to that effect". PALE should also leave the Muslim community to represent itself on these fora since it lacks authority to speak on its behalf.

Is it the air in Queensland or do they drink and smoke funny stuff?

I do not see any lack of cohesion amongst the animal protection groups either, it is simply that, worn out by the abuse and threats of legal action, they refuse to have anything to do with PALE, which they probably recognizse gives them all a bad name.

As I understand it, the RSPCA in Queensland is NOT the responsible body for the welfare of "farmed" animals in that state; carriage of that role is with whatever the Department of Primary Industry is called up there. RSPCA Queensland looks after companion animals, so gets to leave the hard stuff largely alone.

The submissions referred to are to the Senate Committee for Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport back in 2003 in response to a Private Members' Bill by Senator Bartlett. PALE lodged something like five or six submissions of carying length and with varying degrees of coherence. From memory there is one of a couple of pages about cruelty to crustaceans (see question above). There is a one or two paragraph letter from HSI, but I doubt whether HSI's support would be continuing if it could read some of the claptrap PALE posts on these fora

Nicky