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Accountability in Government?

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Sometimes the bottome line is - nothing more can be done.

After many years in the Commonwealth Public Service I have learnt a few things:

1. It is very easy for someone to become a serial pest even if they have a valid complaint and have tried all available avenues.

2. Sometimes public servants do all they can to help but are constricted by jurisdictional factors and the legislation. Even the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet will just check information out with the relevant department if someone has made a complaint about the handling of an issue. On occasion a letter to the PM can at least bring about another look at the issue, unless you have already written before or if it is a State matter they will generally just refer it.

3. Your local MP does not have any real power other than to act on your behalf in a letter to the PM or relevant Minister. He/she can write the Attorney-General on your behalf outlining your situation and asking for a review of the relevant legislation that might be impeding the complaints process. The Australian Law Reform Commission will only act on the advice of the AG.

4. The media is probably your best bet if you have tried all other avenues.

5. AND now the part you may not want to hear. If you have done all that you can do and the legislation does not allow you to pursue a different line of attack (so to speak) you may just have to accept that sometimes you can't win the war, we are lucky if we win a few battles along the way.

6. There are always two (or more) sides to a story and you believe your side to be true and accurate (I am not judging one way or the other) but the other side probably thinks the same. It is human nature to protect your children but it is also human nature to protect your position and these teachers/DET may truly believe they have done no wrong.
Posted by pelican, Sunday, 2 March 2008 2:00:14 PM
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Later this afternoon I will be putting some evidence on my blog.

For those who think that I have always written in an emotional and emotive manner. Think again. I was emotional and very upset so I had a friend who was not directly involved write the letters at the begining and they were very matter of fact. It didn't make a difference it actually made it easier for them to cover up. The process is set up to cover up and discredit the complainant. Nothing makes a difference because the system is corrupted and people do not care.

Now I am fed up, upset and angry and I have justifiable good reason to feel this way. It shouldn't matter how I present. When Policy and Procedure require that matters be investigated they should be investigated, not covered up.

I will continue to fight for my children's right to be treated fairly and without bullying and discrimination. I will continue for as long as it takes. We live in a Democracy not a third world country.
Posted by Jolanda, Sunday, 2 March 2008 2:19:16 PM
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We live in a Democracy not a third world country.
Jolanda,
At times I wonder. Anyhow, we do actually have a democratic system, your problems are proof. You are outnumbered by bureaucrats so you are actually the minority & have to accept the majority's decision. You can't get anymore democratic than that, can you ?
I very much feel for you because I am going through the same nonsense with Qld Health. The bureaucrats can't afford to grant you any justice because of the structure of the system.
You see, the Public service is like a Domino set & they can't allow to let the first block to fall onto the second. So, no matter how morally right you are, even the most corrupt & incompetent official has the support of Premiers & Ministers rather than you, the victim. That's democracy at work.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 March 2008 2:53:32 PM
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Jolanda,
I am truley stunned by your run down that pale only offered you a one hour meeting in Sydney.

Jolanda there was a lot of foot work down to arrange that and it was just to kick things off.

One hour with a barrister is not to thumb your nose at.(Free)
If he thought he had a case he could get up on he would have then run with it at no cost to you.

I am not going to sit here and write a list of everything else that was done and what would be the point.

I tell you what I will do however. I well ensure this matter is now properly investigated .

I think it in everbodies interest from yourself and children the school the teachers the Government.

After all to the recently made formal allegations against the Ombudsman school teachers now pale of a conspiracy to cover up allegations of bias, victimisation, neglect and corruption aimed at children.

The cover up you said is in relation to formal allegations that my family has made against the Department of Education.

I hope it works out in a way to bring peace to all involved and better yours and the childrens lives along with everybody else who has been involved with assisting you and in any way with this matter.
Amen
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 2 March 2008 8:22:57 PM
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Pale I didn't say ONLY in the way you are presenting. I said it in the context of the fact that my families case is very involved and you told me that you hadn't looked at my website and you kept telling me about how busy the Solicitors and you were and what a big case they were involved in. I couldn't see how trying to fit us in inbetween a big court case would be good for the case that the Barrister was working on or for that matter anything else. But like I said I would have attended and been grateful for any help but I never got your emails and I was never informed. I wasn't thumbing my nose at anything.

I have posted some information and documents on my blog so as to present some evidence of one instance of manipulation and bias and also of the DET's conspiracy to cover up. There is of course a whole lot more.

I thank you for your good wishes and hope you can help to have this matter investigated as that is what we have always asked for - a proper and fair investiation into our families allegations and complaints. I also wish you all the best of luck in your endeavours to save the animals from the cruelty and slack behaviour that we see and experience in this world.

Education - Keeping them HOnest
http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/
Our children deserve better
Posted by Jolanda, Sunday, 2 March 2008 9:06:46 PM
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Hi Jolanda

I would like to see something/anything that proves one of the below acusations from yourself.

few weeks later their response was to target my son. They do this so as to create another situation and move the attention away from the situation at hand and confuse things. This wasn't the first time they targeted my son, my children have been targeted relentlessly."

and evidence about

Teachers humiliating my children and making sarcastic comments about my children’s intellect in front of the whole class and continuously criticizing them.

and evidence about

Teachers regularly totally ignoring my children when they are the only kid with their hand up wanting to answer a question and instead making a point to ask them to answer questions when they didn't have their hand up so as to put them on the spot and embarass them.

you have said you can "support everything I say with evidence",
Posted by Annoyed Parent, Monday, 3 March 2008 9:22:32 AM
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