R0bert, said
The things that stick out to me about calls for harsher penalties.

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I don’t know what anybody can do about harsher penalties. Yourself, Vanilla have warned it would only go more underground and possible help promote and already booming trade in under aged kids often who are stolen.

Then when I think about those people I do get as upset as Ginx.

Now I know I am treading into deep water but does anybody think its possibly by supporting the gay community we make it easier for these offenders.
Won’t they just use that to say- oh I didn’t know he was under age and drive for a lesser charge?

I was wondering if anybody had some free advice as to how you MAKE police follow up on really serious complaints.

I am helping someone (or trying to) and I had to threaten all sorts of things to get the police to take the report.
This has gone on for three years!It took five full days and the detective said it was one of the worst he had heard. Then it went to NSW police who said it was old history.
So I sent it to Federal because this bloke was overseas when it began but it continued here and they SAY the federal police work on cases of pedophilia internationally.
That didn’t work so I contacted the Ministers office- many times.
Still nothing. So we have this man free as a bird walking around NSW and let me Tell you.
Nobody gives a dam!

Two cases real people I know but both in the past one recent.
Three boys all victims of mums newest of many boy Friends.
Mum had this person in her house only on some weekends, she complained that he did not sleep with her.
She was warned to watch him ,refused to act , on calling DOCs she defended him.
Three months after boys came to some one police acted.
Mother in self defense refused to support her sons.
Second case I wrote to DOCs but no action 5 letters no action.
After father charged with Rape family came together to defend him, he was found not guilty but family imploded no two of 9 talk to one another the victim is a girl she will never recover.
If yesterdays victim can become todays offender and that is the case why not punishment to break the chain?
What victim is worse of?
Not hanging not flogging but punishment as a deterrent surely?
I believe hetero sexual are just as likely as homosexuals to offend.
However I think the effects of being a victim are life destroying, for that alone I want deterrents to re offending

Belly, you gave one of the reasons for your question in that last post "After father charged with Rape family came together to defend him"

That is part of the problem. I'd like to see very severe penalties but not convinced that they would be counterproductive in many cases.

In many of these cases we need adults close to the perpetrator to report the crime and severe penalties will form a disincentive to this.

Families faced with the prospect of the breadwinner going to jail long term and/or massive fines and legal costs may find it easier to pretend that it's not happening particularly when the offences are at the lower end of the scale. Even just being dragged into the legal system may be a big disincentive for some to address this.

Child sexual abuse has a great shame factor to it and it's widely known that offenders risk attacks from other prisoners if jailed and yet people still do it.

Castration (chemical or otherwise) may help but I don't know enough about it to know what it achieves on the psychology of the recipient.

Is that an option for female perpetrators?

Our best hope seems to lie with appropriately educating kids and ensuring that there are people that they know they can turn to. Easier said than done.

No easy answers to this.

R0bert

Dear Vanilla,

There's another website that may be of interest to you:

http://www.csun.edu/-psy453/crimes_y.htm

I Goggled the subject - "Sex Crimes, Punishment, and Therapy."

It deals with the subject," Is Chemical castration an acceptable punishment for male sex offenders?" There is a long listing of References on the subject, including journal articles that may be useful (5 pages in all.)

Foxy, that link does not work. Is there a typo?

R0bert

Dear RObert,

Yes, I think it must have been a typo. Sorry. Try this again:

www.csun.educ/~psy453/crimes_y.htm

Or alternatively if you Goggle:

Sex Crimes - Punishment

It will come up with:

Sex Crimes, Punishment, and Therapy
Is chemical castration an acceptable punishment for male sex offenders?

I trust this will get you there.