Ginx
I said I would not post here anymore only because I dont want to disprupt the topic and I hope some people get something out of it.
However I didnt want not to post a return to you either.

I cant make the police charge this guy and to be really honest I simply cant believe it.!
You know us huffing and puffing about cruelty but this is honestly beyond the pale.
The guy likes his neighbours= Single with twelve kids!
The victim even have a offer from an eye witness still alive but residing in another country.
Nop = Too hard . So in other words if migrants are sex offenders they are untouchable but welcome to stay and re offend.

Mean time i have paid for counciling and phys out of my own pocket but really nothing helps unless the abused is charged.
I know that and I am a nobody.

I see the victim often and I could cry because there is this hard knowing sort of a lok now after the hope of some justice has been replaced by what could only be the greatest insult ever.

Anyway it was something close to my heart and thought others might have advise.

Perhaps I ought to stick to animals at least I can understand them
Thanks Ginx for the reply ah

What the? This is the first time I've had a chance to check the thread and I find this:

"Well at least we sorted that one out = you dont give a dam about this person we asked advise for... Sorry WE asked- Carry on 'pretending' you care about abuse victims"

What a nasty, nasty accusation. Admittedly I'm the world's biggest sook, but this made me cry.

As you know from my posts, the abused boy I knew - the reason I started this thread and also another personal project IRL - is dead. Overdose. He's *dead*. His drug abuse was, indisputably, related to his abuse. As I also explained, another boy who was abused by the same person suicided. The cops know. And their abuser works as a social worker in a Queensland hospital.

Do you really think if I could MAKE the cops act I would hide this knowledge and let these people die, and thousands more get abused. You don't think I wouldn't have already acted? You're really suggesting that I started this thread simply because I'm pretending to care about child sex abuse victims for some perverted reason of my own. It's the worst anyone's ever thought of me. You're wrong, by the way. But if you want to create a competition about who cares the most and declare yourself the winner, go ahead.

As for the situation, I truly wish I could help more. Is the abuse still going on? If it is, and the cops won't act, can you at least find out why? Robert's suggestion is great - if the girl is willing to testify and the cops just don't want to hear it, then I think the media probably will. All the broadcasters have tip-off numbers, but I'd go with the ABC first. If you tell us more about the situation maybe we'll have other ideas.

If you aren't talking to us anymore, fine, your call.

I'm sorry I took 48 hours to get back to this thread. But neither Robert nor I deserved that abuse.

Vanilla, I'm sorry to hear that PALEIF's attack got to you so intensly.

Nothing either of us have done (or failed to do) on this thread deserved that level of nastiness and as far as I'm aware you don't have a history with PALEIF to provoke it. PALEIF and I have clashed previously so I'm somewhat used to it although not recently.

Since you have joined the forum I've quickly grown to greatly appreciate your posts and the values and mind that show through them.

I took it as a compliment when PALEIF suggested that we might not be different posters ("Robert and Vanilla if they are different posters - http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1432#26978"

You are doing a great thing by starting and contributing to this thread. Please stick with it. There is much for us all to learn. I've found it very helpful so far.

R0bert

R0bert,

Thank you. I love you a little bit. I also take it as a compliment we're the same poster. In fact, let's pretend we are, should the need arise.

But I was a bit sooky in my last post and I'm embarrassed now - I apologise to all, including and especially PALE (who, by the by R0bert, I've never encountered before, no. We're not talking HRS here are we?) Seriously though, sorry, I honestly just got a shock about where the thread was heading. It's a free country, and as I said in my last post, if you really believe I'm the enemy PALE, then you should react (and act) on that.

Meanwhile, I'll think more about the actual issue tomorrow

Posted by Vanilla, Friday, 1 February 2008 6:39:58 PM
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 1 February 2008 6:56:51 PM
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Robert you know very well the coment was directed at you. I remain unconvinced that V and R are two people.
Its clear you ignored pales post for all to see.

Your dislike of pale has led you to be most unfair to a victim and I am deeply dissapointed about that.

I am sure in your own way so will you be.

You ignored our plea for help for this person . Thats cruel.

I made the FATAL mistake to make matters worse of drawing the victims attention to this thread. I could kick myself for doing that.

Re your question= Is the abuse still happening. No the victim is here with us and the offender is in NSW however the neighbour has kids and nobody will help.
A current affair said he could sue for slander because the police have not charged him= Hilarious because if they had then there wouldnt be a story would there.

The police said I could not warn the neighbour because if she told him then he could sue me
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I will file myself in court next week and seek leave to speak on behalf of the victim as they can not afford lawyers.
Its all about making him stand in front of someone and be accountable not money.

Of course the court will bemost unimpressed however we will get it on record we did it ourselves because the justice sytem failed the victim- yet again
I hope this thread in some way helps to ease your pain and !sorry! its ended this way.

PALEIF, I've got no desire to get back into another fight with you. That benefits nobody.

As I said previously I didn't attempt to answer your question because I didn't think I had anything significant to contribute and the matter is one where uninformed opinions seem out of place. I assume that with your organisations role in dealing with the media and the legal contacts you have mentioned on a number of occasions that anything I can offer would have already been considered. I'm sorry that it appeared otherwise to you.

Whilst I don't have any personal fondness for you I try not to let it be a driver. If you ask a question that I think I can help with I will try to do so.

Vanilla and I are different people. I have only ever operated the one account on OLO, never changed names, never used someone elses acoount and to the best of my knowledge nobody else has ever used my account.

Now can we get back to discussing the halting of sexual abuse of boys (and where relevant any sexual abuse)?

Do you know why the police refuse to act?

R0bert