Nicky

Wesfarmers headed for hills ..... AWB.[ later].

Re survey- Point is customers are entitled to be “fully” informed on” labels” and its TOO confusing Now.

Col Rouge said
World would be a better if they focused efforts in resolving how to reduce the demand (viz smaller human population)

Pale

Interesting comment.

It’s certainly over populated which doesn’t help global warming. How do you get Religious leaders to listen?
Col Rouge,
My observation of the fringe loons who promote this sort of “animal activist" rubbish to be, generally, comfortably situated small minds who lack enough challenges to fill their day.

Pale

That’s not the case here pale has continues because of the CEO of RSPCA QLD plus a couple of us mortgaged our homes and sold land.

I have always found rather the opposite in life actually. It’s usually the poorest of people who give the ost.
RSPCA and other Animal Welfare groups need all the help they can get. So do the good farmers.
They are the forgotten ones.

Col
or at least make some personal contribution to reducing world human population numbers by topping themselves.

Pale
While I am sure those comments were said as an expression it really wasn’t in the best of taste.
Very upsetting words to read if someone lost a loved one by suicide especially Christmas.

Col
So when you are prepared to demonstrate your commitment to free-range by subsidizing the difference I would have to pay to support a “free-range only “industry, I might listen but until then, economic intensive farming methods are fine with me.

Pale

Ah! There is the Answer Thank You!
Public are’ already ‘subsidizing. If it were fairly handed out then your wish would be granted. So know you understand at last what all these Loones fight for.
Better still -disease free products -not pumped with every drug -creating uncontrollable virus like bird flue Sars etc.
Surely you don’t think it’s fair that small free range farmers practicing humane methods are forced out?.

Surveys showed 90% would be happy to pay slightly more to ensure humane healthy conditions.

If you want to be taken seriously in debating animal welfare - "Papa don't preach!" Don't use capital letters in sentences that jump off the page. A valid, logical, argument is far more moving than what comes across as hysteria. I realize the issues are close to your hearts, but take a tip - "Don't shout!" Otherswise you deafen people, and they just won't hear what you've got to say.

Oops Foxy - you've crossed a line there. Be prepared for any amount of personal invective from the PALEIF collective for daring to suggest that their comments here aren't really likely to attract support for their cause.

I think that the anti-live export crew would do well to pay attention to the more reasonable perspective articulated by Nicky, and even the rational (but waspishly expressed, as ever) view of Col Rouge.

"Papa don't preach!" Don't use capital letters in sentences that jump off the page."

Thank you for those words of wisdom Foxy.

Atilla would be so proud of you!

Now be a good girl and direct me to the "capital letters in sentences" to which you refer please. My old eyes must be ready for some shut eye.

And can't we just bang on too, despite the frauds hijacking threads which are far too complex for their comprehension.

But you Foxy I believe should receive the award of the decade on OLO. Congratulations - well done!

Papa certainly taught you how to preach eh?

345 posts in just 2 months. Wow some record that! 172 posts in one month - forty three posts a week. Incredible! We can barely make that in a month though I do believe quality's better than quantity, wouldn't you agree?

And I certainly trust you do have a home to go to.

You must be exhausted and we apologise for keeping you up Foxy. Now off you go girlie.

And good night to you too C J Morgan. I am delighted to see that you are taking Mummy's advice when she instructed you to:

"Never go to bed angry. Stay up and plot your revenge."

Feeling better now bubsie?

Hi all
May I PLEASE say at this point that it would be so nice if this thread remained constructive, and without people being rude to one another? I am not trying to patronize anyone, but it just seems sad that so many clearly intelligent, well-intentioned people eventually feel driven to respond in kind to people we know to be trouble makers. Treat those people with the contempt they deserve by ignoring their input and they will soon get bored and go away and try to sabotage other threads. Let's stay positive here!
Good night all,
Nicky

HelloEveryone

Dickie , Nickie You may find this link of interest.

http://www.infinitybrokerage.com/carter/seminar.aspx

http://www.cme.com/html.wrap/wrappedpages/end_of_day/daily_settlement_prices/lc.html?h=1

The name of the company that Elders operate their live trade through is Infinity Futures. You may like to pass that onto Lyn as well please.


http://www.cme.com/cme/edu/events/forms/live_trading_cme_reg.html

Its of course a nice little family business in the USA. Note the great care not to mention live exports and - only members able to

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=futures+company+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Much of it you have to be a Mission member to enter. Umm

Nicky ,
Fyi
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/2006/s1575792.htm

I am not sure I can explain all about AWB involvement in space given- Or that I want to here.

Yes I did misunderstand you regarding the evidence sent.
I thought you meant AWB.
I do apologize.

The links below are bits that may interest you both when you have time.
AWB was closed due to lack of funding- Cough Cough.
When questioned -these were the following remarks.
John Howards office- no idea who is in charge of the Funding for AWB Enquiry.
Downer- nothing to do with his office.
Vaile- No comment try Phillip Rudocks office.
Phillip Rudocks Office- Everybody is in meetings we will call you back.
The next day- Sorry they are still in meetings.
The next Sorry nobody can answer that question.

http://www.djacobson.com/external_insights/decision_makers_toolkit/index.html
http://blogs.smh.com.au/thecontrarian/archives/2006/04/howard_is_facin.html
AWB LEGAL COSTS
Pressure from WAFarmers through the Grains Council of Australia (GCA) has forced AWB Limited
to bear all the legal costs arising from the Cole enquiry.
Close to $30 million.

http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,18744477-

28737,00.html

Foxy -addressing pale?
Morgan Nicky has always articulated her posts. Same as Dickie.
Not so with me I am afraid- So if you have little understanding of the subject you probably wont follow my posts.
I am basically from farming background with 20 years Investigations.
Many hands hearts heads and skills are required and its good to know all are prepaired to give their time to insist on free range and re opening of abattoirs .
We each offer something and many hearts and hands are required.

As they say- A few good men. pale members do you no harm.
Good night All