Belly

= Wendy Lewthwaite the President of pale=

-You clearly have the mentality of a five year old - if that.

To laugh and applaude the most barbaric treatment of Animals for nothing other than greed is unforgivable.

You belly?- sung a different tune when I commented on the dreadful and discusting piggery partly owned by Amanda Vanestone and a few other Liberals several months ago.

You have gone on about the ill treatment of puppies being sold.

Are you saying that only dogs should be treated with some codes of practise?

We are not a saying everybody should stop eating meat.

We are saying people wanting to open free range farms and abattoirs should be "given just as much assistance" as the intensive suppliers.

WE are saying- Dont throw the fair Go out the back door!

There is absolute proof that bird flue , foot and mouth and zillions of other diseases "come from intensive farming."

So now we know you couldnt care less about barbaric unnessary cruelty to Gods creatures.

Also you dont see pumping drugs into these poor tormented creatures and feeding our kids is creating monster diseases that the world can not control.

It also produces huge amounts of green house gasses and pushes the real farmers who grow free range out of the market.

The AMIEU have long campainged for changes.

So what your saying is the Labour AMIEU guys and women -Do Not have your support.

Umm interesting coming from a Union Leader in the SAME party.

The back stabbing and cracks are showing already and we are not into the new year.


Its not much of a bloke that laughs at Animal Cruelty.

Oh and I am a bushy who unlike you does understand farming.

I will send a copy of this thread to AMIEU heads and PM Rudd to ask is this the general attitude of ALP or do they just keep the gooses hidden for the poor unsuspecting bosses trying to make a quid to provide jobs for Aussies.

Nicky

Kerry was never going to be the man.
I would be interested to know however if he knew that.

Its possible Land Line comments were staged to get the votes of millions of people.

I think most were sus and took the safer bet by supporting the Greens as you did.

The sqealing from the farmers is organised by the heads of Farmers Federations and others that have been traitors to the very farmers they are meant to assist.



The Intensive farming industry low lifes and live exporters have the heads of Farmers Federations MLA Austrade just to mention a few by the balls.


Nicky please remember Kerry Obrien was representing a Rudd Government.

PM Rudd IS EXPECTED to live up to what was promised by one of HIS reps of Government regarding Animal Welfare accorss the broad.

Should Rudd NOT live up to those promises then we will have to look at a faulse election promise by way of enquiry.

Tony Burke" Seems to be a favouite name of PM Rudd has come out in strong support of Live Exports and Intensive Farms??

So we must ask Kevin o7 is he a lier and cheat- both- or is Mr Burke going against Mr Rudds election promises.?

Its one or the other.= or both.

You have heavy weights like LandMark Elders. Lets face it the Howard Government gave Elders and Optus a billion dollars? to help the establishing comunications.

You may ask well if such big players are involved how are we ever going to stop this.

The Answer is by bring in even heavier players.

Some of the Saudi and Maylasian Companies are very interested but nobody is game to help them- or 'interested to' [ Yet]

Because Australia is so envied MANY wise thinking reps from overseas HAVE called Farmers Federations to make enquires and requests regarding establishing Free Range Farms of ALL sorts along side our Australian Farmers.

Farmers Federations have NOT passed on this information to the Australian Farmers and have "ignored" all enquires coming direct from buyers.

There is a battle raging at the moment within the pig industry over free range. The big guys know that there is huge demand and had planned to sneak in the new label 'bred' free range to dupe consumers into buying an intensively reared product. 'bred' free range is a system where sows are kept in barren paddocks totally devoid of any vegetation. They do give birth outside but their piglets are taken away at 3 weeks of age and still have all those unnecessary procedures inflicted on them, tail docking etc. They are then moved to huge sheds for the rest of their growing stage.

People believe this product to be free range when it is not.

You guys can actually do something to help the free range farmers get standards in place to stop this deceptive advertising. Have a chat to the pig while you are there.

http://www.pigout.net.au

Fill out the survey and send it to as many people as you can. There is a link on the page to do that.

It seems the powers that be want to know what people think free range is before they will take any action.

Here is another interested comment on the subject from CHOICE
http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106111&catId=100570&tid=100011&p=1&title=Free-range+or+free-range+bred%3f

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/la/qala.nsf/6b9957d2cbad5bd8ca25700b00232203/fea43c234e89005bca2573a1002fca8a!OpenDocument

Can anyone tell me why we use pink-skinned pigs for the domestic market in Australia? I dont know stacks about pigs and piggeries, but I do know that pink-skinned pigs are very easily sunburned and develop skin cancers if outside for very much time at all. My understanding is that this is why they are generally kept in sheds. Black-skinned pigs dont suffer the same problems, but are usually only associated with the feral population. I am unsure as to why they cant be used in domestic production??

Given that the price of Australian pork is currently below the cost of production, I am sure that many (particularly smaller) producers would turn to free-range if it was viable - think of the costs of sheds, lighting etc, no business would shoulder these burdens if there wasnt a good reason for them.

I dont like unnecessary handling and poor treatment of animals any more than the next person, but am also able to realise that there are often reasons behind why some things are done that extend further than simply profit motive.

Thank you for your post Belly.

It reveals that you are actually a jackal in sheep's clothing - an imposter of the worst kind.

You, Belly are typical of the union representative that workers do not need. You are the hypocritical union rep. who would dish out favours to a few for personal gain whilst exploiting the trust of the majority.

Only the cowardly "run with the hares and hunt with the hounds", Belly.

And you continue to bang on about the plight of abandoned pets whilst sneering and giggling at those who agonise over the sadistic torture of animals in the intensive farming industry.

You are a moral pygmy:

"A huge grin this thread!
"Now I am concerned about the beer! was the grain used treated fairly?
Tasted ok but you never know!
I truly do not think some serve animal welfare but make a good course laughable."

Well I do have a problem with your grammar, Belly however I believe your sick comments above are truly befitting of the jackal who preys on the defenceless.

Definition of jackal (synonym):

An accomplice or a lackey who aids in the commission of base or disreputable acts.

Come be fair dinkum pale! tell it like it is, in a thread about Aboriginal stolen generation read it again pale.
And see the one about a ten year old girl raped!
See some one posting as pale say it was grog alone that is to blame.
The lack of concern for that child.
The blaming of grog for Aboriginals present and past problems.
How can you show more compassion for animals than humans?
Read the comment pale posted that Aboriginals raped their own children before whites came.
Be fair dinkum pale! your childlike insults to unions are barbed meant to hurt.
My fishing trip in this thread has got you trousers down, you can hand it out but not take it!
I do not like animal cruelty in any form, have looked in horror at that recent film from middle east killing sheds of Australian cattle.
But your post was not aimed at anything other than insulting a bloke who has lead us for a month and two days.
You targeted his religion and just about every thing about him.
Review your childish insults to me, ask why do you get so upset if I remind you your views are far from mainstream.
That in my honestly held view others best serve animal welfare in Australia?
If the group known as pale are all that stands between animal cruelty and a better way this country is in trouble.
The pale car park is again on show here in your thread you do your group more harm than good.