Dear Nicky, Dickie, and PALE...

Firstly to you Nicky - Thanks for your kind words. They helped and were very much appreciated.

To you Dickie - I'm so happy that you explained what was going on with you because I've liked you from your very first post concerning animals.

And to all of you at PALE- please keep up your good work.(I know you will!)
You're hearts are in the right place, and I'm going to keep my big mouth shut from now on. You guys know what you're doing - you don't need advice from some amateur (me) - who was having a 'bad day.'
Apologies to all - especially you Dickie!

May the New Year be a Good One!

Foxy, may you be posting with us for a very long time. This has become easily the best thread with which I have been involved, with really positive contributions from people who are clearly special people. The truly sad thing about cancer is that it doesn't help knowing how you might have got it once you have. My partner has recovered from cancer, thankfully, many years ago.

But we can, hopefully, use the information we have found to link that and other diseases to some of the unspeakable things humans do, particularly to the voiceless and defenceless. Thank you, Dickie.

PF, someone who talks about her animals as you do cannot be so hard-headed. The difficult part for me would be that I wouldn't be able to send them off to markets, so it's just as well I'm not in that line of business or I would go very hungry. You have obviously gone to a tremendous amount of trouble and research to ensure that your animals have happy lives as far as is practicable.

PALE, obviously you too put tremendous energy and passion into what you do; congratulations for that. Every bit of exposure of the live export trade gets it out there, and the more it's out there the more uncomfortable politicians are going to be.

All the very, very best for the New Year, everyone.

Nicky

Nicky-

Coming from you, that’s a compliment, Thanks.

However I known your wrong about one thing ‘only’ on this thread.

Nicky said PF

The difficult part for me would be that I wouldn't be able to send them off to markets,

Pale replies.

Yes you could Nicky.

Your compassion lies well past considering your own feelings.

You were born! to help Animals like Dickie.

You like PF would oversee the” best” Free Range Farms and ensure plants locally”.

Why? Do I say this?

Because, when push came to shove, and `you` were standing on the docks, with only the choices being the green door or the red door to send your animals through –

With the Green Door being Animals being raised on PF type farms and slaughtered locally---

Or the Red door being Animals raised in intensive farms and sent on the death ships to their slow barbaric treatment –

I ‘know’ you would not only send` yours` through the green door but you would be using every tactic to bid against the AWB and Elders Red Door live stock agents to take as many out of their grubby dirty hands and redirect them back through the green door.
And you would do a darn good job of it too!


To Foxy Belly, Foxy C,
Smile- Thanks.
Funny As! I think you may have got away with that one or we have some extraordinary good will for the New Year. Let’s hope it’s the latter!
No we don’t help all the answers. We need your help too.

Juila is going to cop heaps in the next year and we need to put up some sensible alternatives and policies which I hope she will cling to and it would be a win win all round.

Hi All



Question has to be answered . - Did Mr. Rudd buy Free Range Ham and Turkey for Christmas. ?

I was wondering if any member or members of the public that read this forum would like to put their hand up to write to Mr. Rudd.

We require an Answer.

I would do it myself but they call every group of fair minded people extremist veggies these days.

It’s really quite the "in thing to do" and popular around Parliament house. Has been for several years but it still seem to be holding its own. Or is that holding their own. Umm perhaps somebody else’s? - Elders AWB - who knows? Now wasn’t it Elders and Optus the Government gave one billion dollars to last year? Hang on isn’t that in direct opposition to Telstra.
Oh dear I think I better stick to simple things such as cruelty to Animals it’s all a bit Chinese to me.

So if there is more than one of you ladies and gentleman in your house hold concerned about cruelty to Animals do not tell the Government. [Or you will be branded as extremists]

Don’t take it personally - its only politics-

So if you Mr. Rudd receive many letters [all from single people of course! with single thoughts and single views then you can be sure you are getting the real feelings of the Australian People.

Which reminds me. What were the phone calls from your then advisor Pr Election Kerry O’Brien’s Advisor for? Promises of surprises.
No I am not surprised.

You really should get Bernie to run the co joint proposal by you and you should give it a lot of thought. Elders could be sponsors and hosts for selected Migrants for this country to be trained in Free Range Farms and plants along with our regional and aboriginal people.
The Libs are interested.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if they stamped back in power three years down the track with a lot of help from the many growing Animal welfare organization.

"Almost" make me sick too- but that’s politics.

Suddenly this thread that was so important to help the pigs is of no interest.
May I simply say as the RSPCA QLD CEO said to me six years ago.
Until everybody worls together nothing will change.
I am sick to death of the rather obtuse personalites of so called animal welfare people.
What happend to helping the pigs?
All that talk?
When push comes to shove nobody wants to do anything bar blow their own whistle.
Whats the point in us waisting our time.
Ok pale have done the petition for the broken election promises.

We are advertsing for some casuals to do shopping centers with the survey for free range pork labels.
We arelooking to do the letter box drops.
We are asking is their ANYBODY prepaired to contact farmers in their states to meet with Muslims so we can actually arrange for more plants to be opended to stop live animal trade.
I am begining to think we ought to just get on with our lives like everybody else.
Forget Animals

BTW Doesnt anybody care if Kevin had Free Range Anymore?

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=meet_your_meat&Player=flv
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 1:29:05 PM
Enjoy!
Suzanne Cass

Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Thursday, 27 December 2007 11:56:10 PM

PALE - I don't know where Suzanne Cass is but I think she has something to do with www.liveexportshame.com, and is possibly in Tasmania. There may be a group down there through which a contact could be made.

pale says
Well I think the above says it all.

What I think both this thread and the other thread does show is there is a team effort to stop threads pale opens and its clear it is done in a united effort.

We joined OLO some time ago to let the public know about many issues of Animal Welfare.

Sure enough the word passed around and in came the faithfuls.

That aside I think- or at least i hope you have gained some information you would not have gained otherwise.
We by `no means` have all the answers.

We only know that until we started about live exports quite a few years ago now nothing was happening and according to Glenyse whom I personally spoke with. She said it was too political.

So we opended pale.

If nothing else I hope we have achieved that much because let me tell you girls they were not going to take this on according to Glensye.
Despite also the bagging we get we have had most of our ideas carried out by them.

"This is of course all good as far as we are concerned".

So you have passed on the question time in Parliment.
The Petition re Rudds pre Election promises.


FYI There have been many Enquires- All called for a ban on animal exports.

You say you are working to replace live with chillied- Yet you refuse to help that very work being done?

Please explain what your real agenda ?