Quite simply by creating employment in regional areas.

Brought a leather lounge lately-? Hides from Malaysia. Aboriginal people are artistic by nature.
This is just one example as to how we can train these people to run their own upholstery business and much more.
We have migrants arriving daily and sea change people in regional areas.
They will need jobs unless you think its ok to have the whole nation living off welfare and being carried by our farmers and small business.
As for your comment about Peter McGauran office - lying.

I am extremely disappointed with Peter McGauran and his office.

I thought we had some pretty good talks about allowing the public who represent 96% of met eaters to be heard.

The fact is it SUITES them to ONLY talk to veggies!

I have decided to post a serious of letter written regarding this whole veggie and Animal Welfare issue. It will take time. They are lengthy and we also had the advisor attend QLD to discuss some of these issues.
The reason Animal Welfare has not been taken more seriously is because it was considered under control- and a bit of a joke in the first place.
The old democrats lobbying the votes with labor preferences.
Take it from me Andrew Bartlett has had a million opportunities to get involved with reopening plants in not only QLD but Australia wide.
So have Animals Australia and Animal Liberation and about sixty others that works under them but should break free to independence.
ALP knows the Democrats are finished and they have the deal with the Greens who really support proper Animal Welfare.

That’s what is behind this latest outburst from Kerry O’Brien in my opinion.
Mean time we need to reopen plants and get farmers the best prices possible. Farmers ARE the back bone of Australia and we need to work “with them”- Not make enemies of them.

RSPCA may have the answer for fed¬eral Labour politicians.
Not that the RSPCA was surprised by the strong response from Australians outraged at endemic cruelty in the live export trade.

um, I wish your employment solutions could be so easy Pale. For years the governments have tried to prop up aboriginals with their own businesses and almost every single time thay fail. The reasons for the failures are that aboriginal people have a completely different value system to white australians. Ownership of a business, property or even their own art simply does not matter to them. I dont think they are wrong, just different and we should stop trying to make them like the average white australian.

Saying aboriginals are artistic is a pretty broard generalisation as well - like white people, some are good artistically some are not.

I cant believe that you could make such ridiculous statements.

There will be no regional areas at all if people like you get your own way and ban anything to do with the treatment of animals during processing for markets.

and by the way, the reason the leather lounge I might buy is made in Malaysia is because if you bought one that is made in Australia it would cost 20 times the amount for the malaysian one. And to be totally honest you wouldnt be able to find one made in Australia because nobody makes things here anymore - why you may ask?? - because unions have created a completely unrealistic wage system in Australia making it unaffordable to manufacture in Australia. If the workplace reforms that were introduced by the coalition were allowed to be implemented correctly you might find that most people would be happy to get a reasonable wage without all the bells and whistles - a job paying $500 a week is better than no job at all.

"The Turkish Muslims aren't having any of this business either. Established slaughter houses? No way Jose!"

Dickie, I remind you that Turkey is a secular State, not
an Islamic State. We don't send live sheep to Turkey,
so its not an issue here.

Fact is that if Australian muslims want to cut sheeps
throats on their tree change hobby farm, they are free
to do so.

Yup, the Middle East is changing, due to enormous wealth.
Yesterday's Melbourne Cup was sponsored by Emirates, a top
world airline. Dubai is today a major global city. Saudi
Arabia now earns 1 billion $ a day from oil. Read their
papers, you will notice they strongly discourage private
slaughter in their suburbs, for good reasons. They have
not banned it yet, as culture changes in steps, not overnight.

It is in the interests of the Middle East, with tourism in
Dubai etc, huge wealth in Saudi Arabia, together with their
Islamic beliefs, that things change. You just won't do it
by waving your big arrogant Western finger. People skills
matter, something the West has real trouble with.

Izzo

Regarding your cheap lounge from Malaysia-
It just may end up being the most expensive lounge you ever purchased in the long run.

We are not trying to Ban Meat plants either - rather open many more.

We support Work choices.

Unions are a huge concern agreed.

Everybody else-

Despite the Governments disgusting track record on Animal Welfare until last Sunday we still supported them.

Nobody is getting any votes anymore through animal welfare unless they earn them.

This well oiled politically motivated scape goat claiming all people concerned about the cruelty of live Animal Exports are only extreme bunch of vegetarians is over.

“ Peter Mc Gaurans office and staff know that is not true.”

They know its not true because of the many conversations, letters and meetings to discuss several proposals and” that issue” was one of them.

Some thought they had RSPCA under control. Let me WSPA in your ear they forgot the public.

They forgot the thousands of members of the public.

They also forgot the thousands of public that aren’t members of any groups.

Yabby

We lets stick to the discussion before us regarding comments on Land line.

If you care to open a thread to debate Middle East Tourism or aboriginal affairs we would be happy to respond.

Mean time I would simple like to add that the Government know 90% of the Australian public want the cruel live Animal Exports stopped.

Someone should tell the Government there`s no point protecting your buddies in the Industry if its putting you out of Government.

Lets put it to the vote shall we? Lets make it an election issue.

Tax payers and members of the Australian public- Where do you want your money spent.

Here or in the Middle East?

I will open another thread and we can use it as a poll.

People Skills- its important to ask-

You just don’t go waving your big arrogant Western Government finger.

People matter, something the Cruel Live Export Industry and Government has real trouble with.

Pale - thought you might like this.

Ahh... but did the big boys get to him and convince him that free range means free to range inside sheds?

Single vision for free range
By MEGAN McNAUGHT
07nov07

FEDERAL Agriculture Minister Peter McGauran has called for a uniform approach to regulating free-range farming.

Mr McGauran said he would bring state agriculture ministers together to develop a uniform and enforceable approach to the use of the term in labelling.

The move follows a call from egg and pork free-range farmers for strict requirements on producers labelling their products free range.

The Weekly Times last week revealed that shoppers were buying eggs and pork branded as free range but produced using intensive farming methods.

Industry sources say a lack of laws governing the use of the term "free range" means less than half the free-range eggs sold in stores would meet consumer expectations.

Full report in this week's The Weekly Times.

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