Peter McGauran on ABC Land Line today "lied" about the amount of public that have contacted his office office years protesting the cruel Live Animal Exports.


It is a matter of record that John Howard himself has commented about the enormous amount of phone calls and letters he has received about live exports.

Once when he -the PM was answering questions on a talk back radio station he was embarresed by the fact most callers took to task about this utter cruelty of the live Animal Export Trade.

Members of the public tore strips off John Howard one by one.

Of All the things they COULD have asked him about- or got stuff into him about- It was the Live Animal Trade that haunted him caller after caller after caller.


The Howard Government are "fully aware" that the Australian Public want to cruel trade banned and replaced as soon as possible with carcuss trade only.

In Contrast Kerry Obrien while not going so far as to say- We will ban it- Said He was listening to the majority of the public.

Well Kerry Thats a good start. If Kevin is listening to you- you will gain not thousands but millions! of votes from- THE PUBLIC

Vaule adding is indeed why these other countries take these Animals alive and NOT relgious reasons.

Last Year Dr Ali the head of Muslims in Australia put out a media R Asking the Government and media to be reasonsible when reporting on the reasons WHY The Live Trade exsists.

To try to claim that the only people who care about what happens to these poor creatures is Animal Australia- [Which you call an extremist group?] is disengenous to say the least.

How come then you STILL ignore the largest petition in this country and world wide which has nothing to do with AA ? See>And read the comments from the PUBLIC Peter after all they are written to YOU! Perhaps we can now send it to Kerry who isnt so arrogant as you.

http://consciousevolution.com/onshu/view_signatures.php

The Arabs have most of the oil thus money,we have lots of quality sheep.Can we also stop the agonising deaths of millions of sheep cattle and kangaroos due to the drought and bush fires?I see no one protesting to their god.

Most animals in the wild suffer a more agonising death than being transported by ship.We watch lions on TV eat wildebeast alive and marvel at nature.Is this not hypocracy?Excessive pain and suffering for any living thing should be minimised but will destroying an entire industry actually reduce the total amount of suffering on this planet?

Are you too focused on a single issue to the point of, "the cause" becomes more important than the reality?

Arjay'
The reality is that Howards new Minister Peter McGauran lied while ALPs man spoke the truth.

Kerry Obrien didnt say anything other than- A Government must respect its peoples wishes.

As for destroying an industry that already been done by a few powerful greedy politically conected people in the past.

The farmers when the cruel live trade first kicked off were just that - farmers.
All they want is a fair price for their stock Arjay.

Havent you heard as prices go up and up in Woolworths and every other outlet just about the farmers are actually getting less?

Kerry Obrien exrepressed the need to open more plants - Which in return gives the red meat Industry more compertion.

That means a better price for farmers.

So your a hundred percent wrong Arjay.

Or dont you think Australia has the brains to cash in on value adding?
Regardless this thread was started to discuss the blantant lies to the public by the Howard Government.

Its time a bill was introduced to sack Ministers who knowingly lie to the public.

Atleast Kerry Obrien was honest about the amount of public interest.
Honesty is a good start.
Its also a nice change too.

"Or dont you think Australia has the brains to cash in on value adding?"

Clearly not, or local processors would not have to rip off farmers
when they buy sheep, but pay them a reasonable price, which they
don't. Fact is our processors behave like a herd of zebras,
stampeding to outdiscount one another and send each other broke.

Fact is, both parties realise that there is a huge campaign by
extremists like AA to make a political noise.

The good news is that O"Brien realises the value of extending
the restraining equipment system to the Middle East, which is what
they need. Up to now its been rolled out in SE Asia to deal
with cattle. Perhaps we can start in next years budget.

But farmers can only spend so many million a year on improving
animal welfare in other countries, this year its about 3.8 million.

Sadly, local animal activists don't seem to give a hoot about animals,
if they are not Australian. All very tragic really

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming.
The bill that you have suggested already exists but it will never be used against any of the dishonest Commonwealth Public Officials because education of the peasant class on the use of this legislation does not exist.
It is called the Commonwealth Criminal Code Act 1995 and if you read section 137.(6) you will notice that the written warning must be given first but then what State Court will provide a private individual the right to prosecute any commomwealth public official for any of these offenses under this law. You dont even get of first base as they are fully aware of how to prevent prosecutions and the Cth DPP have more money and influence in the pretend court than a common working class peasant attempting a private prosecution.
We are the peasant class slaves and they are the ruling class and you will be made to remember that when big money is involved.
Nothing is going to change while there is no rule of law, what makes you beleive that the rule of law over-rules Govt policy.

PALEIF,will the Arab Nations accept meat slaughtered in Aust,then exported them?

Just keeping you on your toes.I never accept anyone's opinion on face value.Are you connected to the Animal Liberationists?